NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

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NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

Post by Vinkie » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:49 am

I experienced a nice New Vintage Guitar Week, trading a long unused amp for this little '63 Gretsch Clipper.
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Over the past 20 years I must have owned about 10 Gretsches, a few newer Terada made but mainly vintage guitars. I loved their sound and looks but somehow never got along with them in my then current band, either because of sound/character or size and ergonomics. Also I preferred the most familiar models like the 6120, Tennessean, Anniversary etc.

What I like about this in 1963 beginner/cheapest Gretsch archtop is its low weight, no frills approach. It's a thinline depth archtop similar in depth to an ES330 which works well for ergonomics. It only weighs 2,5kg. I even like the low-power Hilotron pickup and the wooden bridge, they sound nice together plugged in.

Many of these guitars are compromised by low or failing neck sets and/or sinking tops and binding rot but this guitar is great in that respect. It's a great sounding acoustic guitar, binding isn't pristine but apart from a few spots in good condition.

Yesterday I played the Clipper at a smaller gig and it did great. It sounds and responds completely different than my mainly used Jazzmasters and wouldn't work well in a loud band. But for smaller semi-acoustic gigs its distinct character really comes through. I might eventually go for an aluminium bridge to make it sound a bit brighter but will leave the original wooden bridge in place for a while.

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Re: NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

Post by Vinkie » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:58 am

Just for fun: this guitar was probably built during or after the Friday afternoon drinks. Whoever drilled the position markers must have been hammered :D Image

That dude may have placed the tailpiece as well, it's about half an inch / 1.5cm out of whack. I shimmed it for now to have a straight string path but will move it to the correct position later. I will also repair the missing binding near the tailpiece.
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Re: NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

Post by MrFingers » Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:56 am

"Just Gretsch Things". They look quite sophisticated from the outside, but back in the 1960's they were VERY crudely built, especially the non-toprange models.

Also, the HiLoTron might be my most favourite Gretsch pickup of all time, due to its underwound characteristics. Really dynamic and open-voiced.

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Re: NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

Post by Vinkie » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:40 am

Yes, build quality in the sixties was sketchy at times. They are all over the place really, ranging from nice sounding and playing (maybe after a thorough setup) to beyond reasonable repair. I've seen twisted necks, sunken tops, failing neck sets, binding rot etc. I wouldn't ever buy a vintage Gretsch unseen before inspection.

I like the HiloTron, it reminds me of an old '60s Tennesean I used to own. To get it closer to the strings I placed a few small pieces of dense foam under the pickup. It's now height adjustable with the mounting screws. Closer to the strings, the output has increased quite a bit; the bell-like character and clarity are much more noticable.

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Re: NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

Post by F15hface » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:44 am

Very cool even if it’s far from perfect. I played one of these in a shop recently and it was the best gretsch I’d played until a Japanese country gent a few weeks later - lively, comfortable, and a great sounding pickup.

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Re: NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

Post by Surfysonic » Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:50 am

Congrats! Nice Clipper! 8)
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Re: NVGW - 1963 Gretsch 6186 Clipper

Post by Sweetfinger » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:59 pm

EVERY day was Friday at the Gretch factory. The only 60s Clipper I had was thoroughly devalued, with many gruesome things done to it. I do like Hi-Lo Trons, have had them in a couple Corvettes.

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