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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by sal paradise » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:56 am

Telliot wrote:
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I’ve just been floored by the Orange Micro Stamp. Tube preamp with 20w solid state power amp. £125.

1x 8/16 ohm Speaker out & emulated recording/headphone out. Oh, and effects loop.
How’ve I never heard of these before?? It seems like an affordable solution for sure, and with an FX loop for my pedals plus a cab sim for recording straight into my DAW this kinda seems like a no-brainer.
Yeah. I just sold my 2x12. Really annoyed now because I’m absolutely gonna get one of these asap.
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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by Telliot » Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:33 am

I’m reading about the cab sim output and people are saying it’s noisy and harsh. I’ll try and do more digging.
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by sal paradise » Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:47 am

Telliot wrote:
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I’m reading about the cab sim output and people are saying it’s noisy and harsh. I’ll try and do more digging.
From 1:30 in this video is the designer of the amp. Who knew he was a walking cliche, Rolling baccy in his shirt pocket & everything :D

He talks about the emulated out. Sounds like it’s a cheapo headphone jobby or designed for tweaking in post.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by Telliot » Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:38 am

sal paradise wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:47 am
Who knew he was a walking cliche, Rolling baccy in his shirt pocket & everything :D
The picture is completed by the JM with HBs behind him. :fp:

I'm disappointed about the emulated out being a cheapo headphone jack. Not really what I'm going for, and this points me back toward the UA stuff as a more discrete and tweakable piece of hardware. I will say I like the FX loop on the Orange. I keep seeing people mention that as a function of the UA pedals, but I haven't seen a specific diagram or demo to show it in use.
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by cestlamort » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:09 am

I’ve been using the Strymon for home demos and headphone noodling. I like the Fender clean and especially that it can do stereo (albeit with only one IR).
I haven’t yet used it live but have brought it as a backup in case of catastrophic failure by my amps.
For recording, I’ve run it through a DI and direct but haven’t noticed a big difference.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by Telliot » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:56 am

The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by sal paradise » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:07 am

This is useful!

Also, any Andertons video that doesn’t feature Chappers automatically makes it better than it might have been.
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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by jorri » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:21 am

Vox and AMT spring to mind as alternative brands for this.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by Firecat » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:30 am

I have no experience with the UA stuff, but I use a Stymon Iridium to record at home and it's been a complete gamechanger for me! I can't really fire up my amps at home and most of the time I get to record is when my daughter is sleeping in the room next to me. I use the Fender setting 90% of the time and think it sounds great. My main amp is a MusicMan and I can get it to sound very similar. With pedals (especially gain pedals) I learned that you just can't expect that it will behave exactly the same as a real amp, but it does take pedals well. You just have to tweak the pedals a bit differently to get good sounds.

If you're interested to hear some sounds, here's a little solo album I released last May. All the electric guitars were recorded with the Iridium: https://youtu.be/C-0ZeVMyxV8
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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by sal paradise » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:31 am

My rabbit hole has uncovered the Blackstar Amped 1. Big bigger but does fender/vox/Marshall, sounds good & doesn’t cost loads.

But it’s just made me lust after a Victory amp pedal. They’re a bit pricey though.
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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by eggwheat » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:26 pm

I'd go Line 6 HX Stomp..way more bang for the buck than these UA 'plug-ins in a metal box'. 300 odd fx, Amps, cabs. And it sounds damn good. They just updated all the cabinet sims in it and they are extremely good.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by Bradley-Jazz » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:23 pm

I’ve not tried the expensive options talked about above, but I have recently got a budget (£150) NUX Amp Academy to dip my toes in the IR/modelling pool.

It did want some twiddling to get the best out of it, but I use it for headphone practice and recording and for the money have been pretty impressed.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by Embenny » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:44 pm

sal paradise wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:07 am
This is useful!

Also, any Andertons video that doesn’t feature Chappers automatically makes it better than it might have been.
Hasn't he been gone from that channel for multiple years now?
The artist formerly known as mbene085.

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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by sal paradise » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:53 pm

Embenny wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:44 pm
sal paradise wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:07 am
This is useful!

Also, any Andertons video that doesn’t feature Chappers automatically makes it better than it might have been.
Hasn't he been gone from that channel for multiple years now?
I’m not a regular gear video watcher. Good to know.
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Re: Can we talk about amp sim pedals?

Post by echoplex » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:57 am

Neural DSP Quad Cortex is mind-boggling

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