Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:13 pm

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That is beautiful. How does it balance / sit in one's lap? I'm just imagining it as a perfect couch guitar.
Ha, funny you should ask. I only bothered to test that out last night and the guitar balances perfectly on my lap.
The body actually has a bit of weight to it and it sits on my knee right where the switch and neck pickup is.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by Tele295 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:12 pm

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Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:18 pm
Quick mockup.
I ended up going with the trapezoid Dano XII bridge.

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Very nice. What’s the scale length?
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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:20 pm

Cheers!

It is 24" scale.

It will be interesting to see how well it plays. I have never played a short scaled 12 string.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by Nudger » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:18 am

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:20 pm
Cheers!

It is 24" scale.

It will be interesting to see how well it plays. I have never played a short scaled 12 string.
This is trailblazing.. Im hoping it inspires a glut of jag scale/type 12s for those who dont get on with 25.5

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by sal paradise » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:35 am

Nudger wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:18 am
CROSS_guitars wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:20 pm
Cheers!

It is 24" scale.

It will be interesting to see how well it plays. I have never played a short scaled 12 string.
This is trailblazing.. Im hoping it inspires a glut of jag scale/type 12s for those who dont get on with 25.5
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Post by ThePearDream » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:04 am

Looks great with the Dano bridge!
I fully expect the shorter scale to be an improvement. I had already decided that if I ever build another XII, it is going to be a short scale, so I look forward to reading what you think about it.
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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:13 pm

I have to admit, this guitar was originally intended to be a 6 string with a Duo-sonic/toronado bridge but the design was screaming for it to be a 12 string. Plus I have a thousand guitars and I don't own a 12 string yet.
The short scale decision was an aesthetic choice but I reckon it will play well as a 12 string. The strings will be slightly looser, like they are with a 24" scale. Less tension on the neck too.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by solfege » Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:40 pm

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:13 pm
solfege wrote:
Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:36 am
That is beautiful. How does it balance / sit in one's lap? I'm just imagining it as a perfect couch guitar.
Ha, funny you should ask. I only bothered to test that out last night and the guitar balances perfectly on my lap.
The body actually has a bit of weight to it and it sits on my knee right where the switch and neck pickup is.
Oh man, this gives me so many ideas. I'm going to be super interested in what you think of the jag pickups with the 12 too. I just happen to have a set of those lying around...

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by JVG » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:43 pm

That 12-string looks like the result of an affair between a Fender XII and Brian May’s Red Special. That’s gotta be a good thing, in my books.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:18 pm

I finally bought a fretboard radius jig.
I could have made one but decided to buy one. But I made the sled, at least.
It's set up for vintage 7 1/4" radius.
It worked pretty well. Very accurate. Although next time, I won't glue the binding on first as it chipped off and I had to redo it, which was a huge pain.


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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 pm

And a couple of days later!
Test assembly.
I can't do much more to it for now because the weather here is crap.
In the meantime, I can file the nut etc, and string it up.


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Post by copacetic » Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:12 pm

CROSS_guitars wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 pm
And a couple of days later!
Test assembly.
I can't do much more to it for now because the weather here is crap.
In the meantime, I can file the nut etc, and string it up.


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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by CROSS_guitars » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:58 pm

Thanks! Well, you get first dibs.

I strung it up for a test run. Glad I don't make harps. What a pain in the arse!
So far so good. I like to try the neck out before I do any fret leveling. And also, I don't like going crazy on
filing the frets down. It shortens their life span. So I only do what's necessary.

The neck pickup is omitted so I can access the truss rod. And I'm still waiting on the 3D-printed XII string tree.

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by Lieutenant030 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:37 am

That's sooooo good! I think it's gonna be a proper janglemonster

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Re: Cross Guitars - projects and restorations

Post by Lieutenant030 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 am

That's sooooo good, think it's gonna be a proper janglemonster!

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