Duo-Sonic XII Dry Run

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Been pondering building a duo-sonic XII

I have a duo with a tele 25.5 neck that I luv.. got my fave neck pup sound of any of my 6 strings "Entwistle AS57"
Rather than buy all the parts and hope I like it, I popped the neck and bridge off one of my Electric XIIs onto my duo body.


Found a temporary bridge plate that would hold 12 strings.
The plan being to A B the overall feel and the neck pickup sounds with my XII build "Lacquer potted hand wound neck pup"

At under 7 lbs the duo feels noticeably lighter, making it really fun to play.
Sat down the balance aint great.. Headstock dives. The guitar strap has a tight fitting shoulder pad and while standing the resistance kept the headstock from dipping so much.

Sound wise was not what I was expecting.
I was hoping that 12 strings with my fave neck pup would be all good but my Electric XII build just rang out with I can only describe as a fuller more satisfying noise.

Verdict
Leo got i right 1st time round.

Did the duo XII sound good?
Yup sounded dam good and may be a great for those who need a light weight XII.

Now ive put that one to bed, my mind can move on to my next monstrosity

[tdbajus]

It's funny - my desire for an electric Puerto Rican cuatro (basically @21" or so scale, standard guitar width-ish neck, but with 5 courses of paired strings, the bottom two octaves, the top three unison) has gone into overdrive.

I finally got my acoustic cuatro, which has been hand made by the guy who made my father-in-law's, and it's pretty amazing.

YMMV, but I find playing it puts me in a completely different stat of mind. I'm going to spend more time learning the folk music that it coevolved with... But right now it sounds so cool when I play it like a BS sitar. It has a pickup, and running it through delay at low volumes is gratifying beyond belief.

I've tried to play it in one of my bands, and as you'd imagine, feedback was an issue.

Anyhoo, I had noticed that a duosonic was just about the right scale length. Need to get on that.

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Anyhoo, I had noticed that a duosonic was just about the right scale length. Need to get on that.

Sounds a cool project.
The squier duo bodys routing will lend itself perfectly to an even shorter scale due to the high position of the bridge pup.

May get less neck dive with shorter "less mass" neck..
These bodys are on EBAY UK for £129

[SignoftheDragon]

I have a similar project in mind/at hand-

I kinda love the lightweight feel of my longscale Mustang XII, but I absolutely HATE the cheapo chinese-made neck that the builder used:



I've been lazily searching for a good neck to replace it - possibly do a headstock conversion (adding 6 holes & mounting the extra tuners perpendicular to the stadard ones a la Sonic Youth's Deimel 12s) to keep the headstock smaller. If I had a nice hockey-stick one like yours it'd already be on here!

[tdbajus]

I tried to get the Eastwood guy to do a version of his Ellis 6 string as a cuatro.

I wonder if we could somehow convince him to do a 12 AND a cuatro.

[andare]

Anyhoo, I had noticed that a duosonic was just about the right scale length. Need to get on that.

Sounds a cool project.
The squier duo bodys routing will lend itself perfectly to an even shorter scale due to the high position of the bridge pup.

May get less neck dive with shorter "less mass" neck..
These bodys are on EBAY UK for £129

I'd love to have a link or the name of the seller for these bodies. I'm interested in building a 22.5 Duo Sonic or Music master and the Squiers are very hard to find. Btw do they accept a 22.5 neck in case I manage to find one?

Edit: nevermind, I found the listing right away! It's 24 inches though.

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I'd love to have a link or the name of the seller for these bodies. I'm interested in building a 22.5 Duo Sonic or Music master and the Squiers are very hard to find. Btw do they accept a 22.5 neck in case I manage to find one?

Edit: nevermind, I found the listing right away! It's 24 inches though.
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Deffo take a 22.5 neck, worst case senario, may need vintage spec pickguard.. move bridge foward a smidge.

[andare]

I'd love to have a link or the name of the seller for these bodies. I'm interested in building a 22.5 Duo Sonic or Music master and the Squiers are very hard to find. Btw do they accept a 22.5 neck in case I manage to find one?

Edit: nevermind, I found the listing right away! It's 24 inches though.
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Deffo take a 22.5 neck, worst case senario, may need vintage spec pickguard.. move bridge foward a smidge.
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Woodwork is out of my comfort zone if it's anything beyond drilling basic holes. Moving the bridge forward requires filling in holes, drilling new ones and the channel for the ground wire might not fit anymore.

Mmh it's not like 22.5 necks are easy to come by either. There are some vintage ones that cost more than a whole Squier

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Woodwork is out of my comfort zone if it's anything beyond drilling basic holes. Moving the bridge forward requires filling in holes, drilling new ones and the channel for the ground wire might not fit anymore.

Mmh it's not like 22.5 necks are easy to come by too. There are some vintage ones that cost more than a whole Squier
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With this body the bridge would only need moving a fiew milimeters "if at all", pretty sure rhe plate would still cover existing holes.
Ground wire hole deffo covered.

I went the other way, I prefer 225.5

[andare]

Woodwork is out of my comfort zone if it's anything beyond drilling basic holes. Moving the bridge forward requires filling in holes, drilling new ones and the channel for the ground wire might not fit anymore.

Mmh it's not like 22.5 necks are easy to come by too. There are some vintage ones that cost more than a whole Squier

With this body the bridge would only need moving a fiew milimeters "if at all", pretty sure rhe plate would still cover existing holes.
Ground wire hole deffo covered.

I went the other way, I prefer 225.5

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Very cool. I like the rotary pickup selector.

[andare]

I asked the eBay vendor about the body accepting a 22.5" neck and they have no idea, they recommended their 24" necks, which should be back in stock in a month.
I'm trying to recreate a 1961-1962 Musicmaster or Duo Sonic in maroon sunburst with a brown pickup cover and a rosewood fretboard. It's gotta be 22.5. I'm considering splurging on an original neck but buying an original body seems silly to me since they cost almost as much and IME the body doesn't contribute much to the sound. I also have to factor in the refinish, which would be done by a local guy. I'll contact another luthier who does woodwork, maybe he can move the bridge to accommodate the shorter scale neck.

[Nudger]

I'm trying to recreate a 1961-1962 Musicmaster or Duo Sonic in maroon sunburst with a brown pickup cover and a rosewood fretboard. It's gotta be 22.5. I'm considering splurging on an original neck but buying an original body seems silly to me since they cost almost as much and IME the body doesn't contribute much to the sound.

Cool project

Think when ive seen orig 22.5 necks for sale, they tend to be cheaper than 24 too!

[andare]

I'm trying to recreate a 1961-1962 Musicmaster or Duo Sonic in maroon sunburst with a brown pickup cover and a rosewood fretboard. It's gotta be 22.5. I'm considering splurging on an original neck but buying an original body seems silly to me since they cost almost as much and IME the body doesn't contribute much to the sound.

Cool project

Think when ive seen orig 22.5 necks for sale, they tend to be cheaper than 24 too!

Apparently all the MM or DS rosewood necks are A width, which is only 1.5" and too cramped for me. I think I'll try to snag a MIM Fender or Squier from the 90s with a maple neck, those were 1 5/8".