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Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:13 am
by JSett
sal paradise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:39 am
The production on Nevermind is incredible. Butch Vig made a DS-1 work, imo.
I'm not a fan of the sound of Nevermind. Or any of Butch Vigs work really...he has a style to his work that does very little for me. But different strokes for different folks etc.
You can make almost anything work with a studio as well-equipped as the one they recorded at. Plus, the guitar tones were layered with DS1, Rat & Big Muff depending on what song from what I've read.
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:25 am
by fever606
johnnysomersett wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:56 am
LVC wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:30 pm
Anyway... I know some people on OSG are quite sensitive about the shape of the current Mustang control plate, and how it doesn't closely follow the edge of the body. So...
In all honesty, that's no uglier than the actual Jagstang.
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:02 pm
by molul
johnnysomersett wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:13 am
sal paradise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:39 am
The production on Nevermind is incredible. Butch Vig made a DS-1 work, imo.
I'm not a fan of the sound of Nevermind. Or any of Butch Vigs work really...he has a style to his work that does very little for me. But different strokes for different folks etc.
You can make almost anything work with a studio as well-equipped as the one they recorded at. Plus, the guitar tones were layered with DS1, Rat & Big Muff depending on what song from what I've read.
The sound of Nevermind is much more Andy Wallace's work (the mixer) than Butch Vig's (which was more about structuring songs parts and arrangements, and recording).
I too am not fond of the album sound, neither did Kurt AFAIK (he loved Vig's mix, though). Those songs deserved a finish closer to In Utero than to mainstream rock.
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:50 am
by garyptaszek
fever606 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:25 am
johnnysomersett wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:56 am
LVC wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:30 pm
Anyway... I know some people on OSG are quite sensitive about the shape of the current Mustang control plate, and how it doesn't closely follow the edge of the body. So...
In all honesty, that's no uglier than the actual Jagstang.
I was in agreement until he said Kurt was a great singer and songwriter
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:09 am
by JSett
garyptaszek wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:50 am
I was in agreement until he said Kurt was a great singer and songwriter
Nah, you're wrong man. As much as I like to rag on Cobain he definitely wrote some solid and catchy tunes and had a great punk/angry singing voice with a lot of character, I'll always give him that.
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:04 am
by marqueemoon
molul wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:02 pm
The sound of Nevermind is much more Andy Wallace's work (the mixer) than Butch Vig's (which was more about structuring songs parts and arrangements, and recording).
I too am not fond of the album sound, neither did Kurt AFAIK (he loved Vig's mix, though). Those songs deserved a finish closer to In Utero than to mainstream rock.
Yeah, the mix is very pop metal. The funny thing about that to me is it’s the genre Nirvana supposedly killed.
That’s what made it so successful though. There was some familiarity sonically for people not used to listening to more raw rock music.
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:09 am
by molul
marqueemoon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:04 am
molul wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:02 pm
The sound of Nevermind is much more Andy Wallace's work (the mixer) than Butch Vig's (which was more about structuring songs parts and arrangements, and recording).
I too am not fond of the album sound, neither did Kurt AFAIK (he loved Vig's mix, though). Those songs deserved a finish closer to In Utero than to mainstream rock.
Yeah, the mix is very pop metal. The funny thing about that to me is it’s the genre Nirvana supposedly killed.
That’s what made it so successful though. There was some familiarity sonically for people not used to listening to more raw rock music.
Yep. Maybe it wouldn't have been such a big hit (although I think it would still have been hugely popular) with the sound of In Utero. But a slightly less bright mix would have been very welcome xD
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:10 am
by marqueemoon
A much better candidate for an alternate mix re-release than Revolver IMO.
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:02 pm
by Fiddy
johnnysomersett wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:09 am
garyptaszek wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:50 am
I was in agreement until he said Kurt was a great singer and songwriter
Nah, you're wrong man. As much as I like to rag on Cobain he definitely wrote some solid and catchy tunes and had a great punk/angry singing voice with a lot of character, I'll always give him that.
Yes, he wrote great songs. And yes, the Jagstang is an ugly guitar... Not as ugly as a Toronado though..
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:18 am
by X-Ray Spex
This is the best thread.
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:19 pm
by RBJM
LVC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:46 pm
marqueemoon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:12 pm
But yeah there’s some real weird shit on there that makes you wonder if anyone involved actually plays guitar.
...like this?
WTFO???
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:59 pm
by Fiddy
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:10 pm
by sal paradise
tribi9 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:59 pm
Flying… wheel arch…?
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:12 pm
by JSett
tribi9 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:59 pm
At least it's original
Re: AliExpress monstrosities
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:28 am
by fever606
JSett wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:12 pm
At least it's original
Imagine going to all this trouble and then just dropping bog standard Strat guts into the thing. I mean… look at that jack placement!