Mustangs and Cyclones

[AndyMansh]

Hi there, I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me?

I'm looking at trying to get to a mustang or Duo sonic, but a with Strat style trem.

One of the options I'm considering is using a Squier Cyclone body. I've read that the Cyclone has the same sized body as the Mustang - but they have different scale lengths. Mustang's 24", Cyclone 24.75".

But is this scale difference purely down to differently constructed necks? would a 24" Jag, DS or Mustang neck intonate on a Cyclone body?

As a last resort I may have to get one of the Char Mustangs shipped from Japan, but could do without the expense!

Thanks

[AcrylicSuperman]

I could be wrong about this so someone will correct me if that's the case, but I do believe the bridge is in a different location on the cyclone compared to a mustang, so a 24" scale neck may not actually intonate. Having said that, it seems like I heard the cyclones were a conversion scale neck. I may be mistaking that with the Jagmasters. Someone may correct me, but I'm pretty sure they weren't compatible.

[s_mcsleazy]

the body is the same shape but the scale is different.

[AndyMansh]

the body is the same shape but the scale is different.

Yes, but is it different scale because just the neck is different, or is it different because the neck/pocket/bridge are different?

[supersonicjazzmaster]

I owned a Cyclone years ago. I remember that the body was way thicker than a Mustangs body.
...Uncomfortable to play for me..
This was a red Cyclone with the three Jag Pickups.

[CROSS_guitars]

You can't pop a 24" scale Mustang neck on a Cyclone body or vice versa. The location of the bridge to neck pocket measurement is different.

I think Warmoth make Mustang bodies with a Strat tremolo option.

Also, the body shape of the Cyclone is different on the treble side. The waist is a bit wider. So it's not simply a Mustang body with a strat trem, it's pretty much its own thing.

[AndyMansh]

You can't pop a 24" scale Mustang neck on a Cyclone body or vice versa. The location of the bridge to neck pocket measurement is different.

I think Warmoth make Mustang bodies with a Strat tremolo option.

Also, the body shape of the Cyclone is different on the treble side. The waist is a bit wider. So it's not simply a Mustang body with a strat trem, it's pretty much its own thing.

Thank you, not want I wanted to hear, but a definitive answer.

[Futuron]

Give the Paranormal Cyclone a try as-is!

[jagstang]

I own a mustang and a cyclone. They are totally different guitars. Cyclones body is way more thicker. And this thicker body is needed to fit the strat-tremolo. On a mustang the tremolo block would protrude on the back.

[AndyMansh]

I own a mustang and a cyclone. They are totally different guitars. Cyclones body is way more thicker. And this thicker body is needed to fit the strat-tremolo. On a mustang the tremolo block would protrude on the back.

Hi, yes, my idea was to put a mustang neck on a cyclone to bring it down to 24”, but this won’t work, so back to the drawing board

[AndyMansh]

Give the Paranormal Cyclone a try as-is!

Yes I might!

[ThePearDream]

For a standard 24" scale neck, you are looking for a heel to saddle distance of 6-1/4". I don't have a Cyclone myself, but I do have a Paranormal Toronado, which (I believe) has the same neck. From my measurements, with a 24" neck, the saddles would need to move forward ~1/8" to intonate.

On my Toronado, I can barely get my 0.052" E string saddle back far enough. Fender habitually put their bridges too far forward IMO, so being able to move the saddles forward a bit, will likely work out to your benefit here.

So, I'm 98% confident that a normal Mustang/Jag neck will intonate fine on a Paranormal Cyclone.

[Fiddy]

Doesn't the cyclone come with some sort of conversion neck? I remember trying to fit a 24", more than 10 years ago, and not working for some reason..

[AndyMansh]

For a standard 24" scale neck, you are looking for a heel to saddle distance of 6-1/4". I don't have a Cyclone myself, but I do have a Paranormal Toronado, which (I believe) has the same neck. From my measurements, with a 24" neck, the saddles would need to move forward ~1/8" to intonate.

On my Toronado, I can barely get my 0.052" E string saddle back far enough. Fender habitually put their bridges too far forward IMO, so being able to move the saddles forward a bit, will likely work out to your benefit here.

So, I'm 98% confident that a normal Mustang/Jag neck will intonate fine on a Paranormal Cyclone.

This is interesting. May be worth getting a cheap one and trying it

[ThePearDream]

Doesn't the cyclone come with some sort of conversion neck? I remember trying to fit a 24", more than 10 years ago, and not working for some reason..

It has a 24.75" neck, but it isn't a conversion neck, or at least not a 25.5>24.75 conversion neck. The older versions may have had a different neck, I don't really know. For this application, the math just happens to work out though.