OSGTemp wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:20 am
This is a wild thread. To summarize is the following now thought to be true?
- That Kurt's original Daphne Blue Jag-Stang now in possession of REM, that the neck was made by Scott Zimmerman in Japan, unfinished (no poly), shipped to US and finished Nitro by US custom shop?
- That whilst the Daphne Blue Jag-Stang was probably shipped to Kurt by October 1993, it was actually manufactured after August 1993?
- That Earnie talks about the Jag-Stang at unplugged, so it is possible that it was used live during late November, although the first documented evidence is December 1 & December 3 shows.
- That the Dakota Red Jag-Stang was in fact a duplicate exact shape of the original Daphne Blue, and that this Dakota Red Jag-Stang was present at Fender during April 1994 and was stolen or "lost" sometime after April 1994.
- That the original Dakota Red Jag-Stang again had a neck manufactured from Japan and finished nitro in the US.
- That during late 1994 The Estate gave approval to mass produce the Jag-Stang, but Fender keeps quiet on the "lost" Dakota Red Jag-Stang and cranks out a prototype that all our Jag-Stangs have been based on, and is the famously photographed one we are familiar with. It is not clear if this "second" red Jag-Stang was made in late 1994 or early 1995, but is pieced together with a MG69 neck.
- It is not clear to me why this second red Jag-Stang guitar went for 90,000 dollars if Fender really knew its providence.
- I'm not clear around the production Jag-Stang variances - can this be explained more? I have owned multiple 1996 & 1997 Jag-Stangs and they were all the same later design, I did own one very early 1995 Jag-Stang with the small cutaway and different horn. At the time I knew it looked different, but didn't really understand why, I thought it was a defect body so I gave it away. What was the science on the body change?
Kurt's Daphne Blue Jagstang is owned by Peter Buck of REM, the neck was made by Larry Brooks and was nitro finished in the custom shop.
Not sure the actual date of manufacture. I believe it was finished in October of 1993 and shipped with his second mustang shipment (being october 22 or 23).
As far as I know, despite Earnie's claims, I don't believe he was actually at that show. The two techs listed were Jim Vincent and John Duncan. Can confirm John was present and have actually reached out to him about this claim. The jagstang never had the DiMarzio H8 that Earnie claims he took out of it and replaved with a JB. It appears that he did take an H8 out of one of Kurt's strats that was given to Pat Smear. First public appearance, where it has been slightly modified, was December 1st.
Yes. The Dakota prototype was an exact match to Blue. The bodies were both cut by a cnc machine with the same template, so there should be no reason the two shapes are different. The guitar would have gone missing in late 1994 or early 1995.
Dakota originally had a neck made by Larry Brooks. I was told that Dan Smith asked Scott Zimmerman to ship 2 MG 69 necks raw. These were shot in nitro at Fender and one of these necks ended up on the Dakota prototype as a way to remove Larry's name from it. I believe the second neck was used for the dakota replacement.
I believe the replacement prototype was made in 1995 using rejected templates made by Mark Kendrick.
Despite selling at auction, the red prototype replacement was purchased by a Fender employee who was given details in private.
I can't list all the differences in production models, that's Amon's department, but there were several variances between Fujigen and Tokai as well as the second wave of reissues.