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Basic VI tremolo question
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:32 am
by scole
Pretty basic question for those that know-
I have a Squier VI on pre-order from CME (the Shell Pink version) and I wanted to know if there are any considerations for upgrading the tremolo from the stock piece to a Panorama or American Vintage trem? Are the string holes already large enough to accommodate the VI string diameters?
Thanks!
Re: Basic VI tremolo question
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:38 pm
by dc
AV tailpiece and trem dropped right in on mine
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:29 pm
by tqi
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Re: Basic VI tremolo question
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:48 pm
by scole
Sounds like the trems can handle either guitar or bass strings so that’s all good news. I read in a different thread about the Staytrem VI bridge so, yeah, that’s on my radar as well. I do like their bridges- I have one on my 2018 MIJ Paisley JM and I have a 2nd bridge for a JM build I hope to start later this spring.
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Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:56 pm
by tqi
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Re: Basic VI tremolo question
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:34 am
by N0_Camping4U
tqi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:56 pm
scole wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:48 pm
Sounds like the trems can handle either guitar or bass strings so that’s all good news. I read in a different thread about the Staytrem VI bridge so, yeah, that’s on my radar as well. I do like their bridges- I have one on my 2018 MIJ Paisley JM and I have a 2nd bridge for a JM build I hope to start later this spring.
There's only one downside to the Staytrem: no mute plates. You can use a mute plate on the stock Mustang bridge, or (slightly modified) on a Mastery, but because the Staytrem is "original" size like the OG (and Vin2era) VI - the stock plate doesn't fit. And none have been made since the 70's.
Other than that, it's just superior.
You can def use a mute with a staytrem.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:18 pm
by tqi
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Re: Basic VI tremolo question
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:34 pm
by GreenKnee
tqi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:18 pm
N0_Camping4U wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:34 am
You can def use a mute with a staytrem.
If you use the wrong Staytrem (the Jaguar/Jazzmaster one) then you can use a new mute.
Otherwise if you use the correct Staytrem, you have to find a vintage mute, and those are unobtanium.
Yup, what tqi means is that you cannot use a mute with the Bass VI Staytrem bridge.
Re: Basic VI tremolo question
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:33 am
by GilmourD
GreenKnee wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:34 pm
tqi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:18 pm
N0_Camping4U wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:34 am
You can def use a mute with a staytrem.
If you use the wrong Staytrem (the Jaguar/Jazzmaster one) then you can use a new mute.
Otherwise if you use the correct Staytrem, you have to find a vintage mute, and those are unobtanium.
Yup, what tqi means is that you cannot use a mute with the Bass VI Staytrem bridge.
Yeah, a mute will work fine with a regular Staytrem bridge. A regular Jaguar mute will hit the bottom of a proper 1" Bass VI bridge, Staytrem or not.
I would love to get my hands on a Bass VI mute and bring it to a machine shop to see how hard it would be to replicate it in stamped steel.
Are there any active patents or copyrights on it?
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:55 am
by tqi
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Re: Basic VI tremolo question
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:24 pm
by GilmourD
tqi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:55 am
GilmourD wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:33 am
I would love to get my hands on a Bass VI mute and bring it to a machine shop to see how hard it would be to replicate it in stamped steel.
Or for that matter, milled or sintered steel. The former is more complex being double sided - but not impossible, and the latter seems frankly unchallenging. Something like DMLS or FFF. Neither method would need a custom tool, is the point.
And frankly, for testing purposes - PLA would work just fine too. I'd love to get a VI mute plate modelled.
Well, I do have a 3D printer...
