Mastery bridge and vibrato, metallic overtones.

[movinginslomo]

Partsmaster (jazzmaster) with a fender player neck (rosewood) shimmed with a 1° shim. Curtis Novak HC foil pickups. Mastery bridge and vibrato. I am getting significant metallic overtones, that are only exacerbated by gain/distortion. Is this a normal quality of mastery bridges? Again. neck shimmed, bridge raised

[marqueemoon]

The Mastery bridge tends to let those overtones come through a bit more and generally doesn’t require too much break angle, so that much of a shim may not be necessary.
Seems unlikely that would change things too much though.

I’d make sure the strings aren’t doing anything weird at/behind the nut too.

[movinginslomo]

I shoved foam behind the bridge and nut as a test, the nut made little difference which leads me to believe it was the bridge. How do offset players like J and sonic youth deal with this?

[andy_tchp]

I shoved foam behind the bridge and nut as a test, the nut made little difference which leads me to believe it was the bridge. How do offset players like J and sonic youth deal with this?

By embracing it.

This is just what offsets do, Mastery or not (though I'd definitely believe that a Mastery would/could amplify these 'third bridge' overtones more on some guitars when compared with a traditional Fender bridge).

I mean... probably every Sonic Youth album released features very deliberate behind the bridge picking/playing.

[movinginslomo]

I shoved foam behind the bridge and nut as a test, the nut made little difference which leads me to believe it was the bridge. How do offset players like J and sonic youth deal with this?

By embracing it.

This is just what offsets do, Mastery or not (though I'd definitely believe that a Mastery would/could amplify these 'third bridge' overtones more on some guitars when compared with a traditional Fender bridge).

I mean... probably every Sonic Youth album released features very deliberate behind the bridge picking/playing.

Yea last time I dealt with this level of overtones it was microphonic pickups

[parry]

Check the break-angle and reduce the shim height, as suggested. Reducing string tension should help. If you're not adverse to heavier gauge flatwounds, you can get some great, unique sounds from that combination. It also helps tame the (most often) coveted overringing.

[eggwheat]

I shoved foam behind the bridge and nut as a test, the nut made little difference which leads me to believe it was the bridge. How do offset players like J and sonic youth deal with this?

Well there isn’t a single Sonic Youth record with a mastery bridge on it and none on Dinosaur records either.

Can you record what your hearing?

[movinginslomo]

I shoved foam behind the bridge and nut as a test, the nut made little difference which leads me to believe it was the bridge. How do offset players like J and sonic youth deal with this?

Well there isn’t a single Sonic Youth record with a mastery bridge on it and none on Dinosaur records either.

Can you record what your hearing?

Saw J and company (dino Jr) in June and he was using a mastery, purple anodized to be exact and Thurston uses a mastery live as well. https://masterybridge.com/musicians/

and here's a clip: metallic

(feel free to poke around the rest of my public soundcloud)

[andy_tchp]

Just weave some felt/fabric or tape around the strings between the bridge and the vibrato.

[eggwheat]

I shoved foam behind the bridge and nut as a test, the nut made little difference which leads me to believe it was the bridge. How do offset players like J and sonic youth deal with this?

Well there isn’t a single Sonic Youth record with a mastery bridge on it and none on Dinosaur records either.

Can you record what your hearing?

Saw J and company (dino Jr) in June and he was using a mastery, purple anodized to be exact and Thurston uses a mastery live as well. https://masterybridge.com/musicians/

and here's a clip: metallic

(feel free to poke around the rest of my public soundcloud)

Yeh was talking about Sonic Youth and Dinosaur records...all those amazing records, not a mastery bridge in sight. So if it doesnt work, then maybe just find a decent stock bridge or staytrem. No music will suffer in the process.

Cant hear your track? Says track doesnt exist(or private?).

[movinginslomo]

ah made the clip public can't find a way to share a private link. And to be fair, the classic records were made when those guy struggled with stock bridges, with the same problems mastery (and stay trem and later Fender themselves) tried to solve

[Maggieo]

I get the same thing from the Staytrem on my Squier CV. ::

[movinginslomo]

I get the same thing from the Staytrem on my Squier CV. ::

Maybe it just comes with the territory? I don't get with my JMJM with stock AOM and vibrato, but that's a TOM style. Maybe this is just what Jazzmaster/Jag players deal with who use traditional setups

[Embenny]

I listened to the clip. That's actually quite tame by Offset standards.

To me, it's a feature and not a bug. I have other guitars I'd use if I needed tight palm muting with a heavily distorted tone.

You can weave a little piece of foam between the strings behind the bridge to stop it, without having to resort to the abomination that is the buzzstop.

[andy_tchp]

I get the same thing from the Staytrem on my Squier CV. ::

Maybe it just comes with the territory? I don't get with my JMJM with stock AOM and vibrato, but that's a TOM style. Maybe this is just what Jazzmaster/Jag players deal with who use traditional setups

I did suggest that a week or so ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯