Swope Descendant Vibrato
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
Looks like the obvious thing that no one has done yet. All for that. Some posts on the mod section have occasionally been about wanting to route the trem deeper for length plus break angle. If its 1cm lower (guessing) thats sufficient enough and youd never get the bridge that high.
Lack of a lock has ways around it apparently (at least to get no upbend).
So, as with a lot of these things, like the mastery, i am wondering if it costs as much as a budget guitar itself. Staytrem doesnt, and even a recent bass bridge purchase (fender high mass) costs less than my strings... So that is always the tipping point. My E does rattle a bit and my trem is rickety a bit but ultimately its not enough of a problem to cost as much as a mastery. I get it if your guitar is 1.5k and you just want one perfect thing. (could almost geg a squire tele and use that for any time i notice?)
Lack of a lock has ways around it apparently (at least to get no upbend).
So, as with a lot of these things, like the mastery, i am wondering if it costs as much as a budget guitar itself. Staytrem doesnt, and even a recent bass bridge purchase (fender high mass) costs less than my strings... So that is always the tipping point. My E does rattle a bit and my trem is rickety a bit but ultimately its not enough of a problem to cost as much as a mastery. I get it if your guitar is 1.5k and you just want one perfect thing. (could almost geg a squire tele and use that for any time i notice?)
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
Anyone get their hands on one yet?
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I got one. I have had it for about a month, but to be fair, I’ve been traveling a bit and haven’t really put it through it’s paces. It’s on a new Fender Japan Hybrid Series Jaguar that is also sporting a Mastery Bridge. My first impression is that is is very solid and high quality. It weighs about an oz less than an AVRI tremolo. The feel is meaningfully stiffer than an AVRI or a Mastery tremolo... not in a bad way, but just in a different way. Chris Swope has some things posted where he talks about using a stiffer spring, and that one could sub in the softer spring of the trem one is swapping out. I think I like the stiffer feel, but, as I said before, I haven’t really spent a lot of time with it. I feel like I’m still evaluating. This particular Jag comes with locking tuners, so between the tuners, the Mastery and the Descendant, it stays in tune like nothing I’ve ever seen before.
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Man, that looks great.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
It definitely fits with a Mastery, visually. Looks sharp.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
Really pleased to see this being made, first meaningful upgrade of the offset trem I've seen.
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I would buy this instead of the Mastery.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
Did you measure your cavity before buying? If so, what number did you find? Mine is 2.55, which is less than the recommended 2.57FIREBOT wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:40 pmI got one. I have had it for about a month, but to be fair, I’ve been traveling a bit and haven’t really put it through it’s paces. It’s on a new Fender Japan Hybrid Series Jaguar that is also sporting a Mastery Bridge. My first impression is that is is very solid and high quality. It weighs about an oz less than an AVRI tremolo. The feel is meaningfully stiffer than an AVRI or a Mastery tremolo... not in a bad way, but just in a different way. Chris Swope has some things posted where he talks about using a stiffer spring, and that one could sub in the softer spring of the trem one is swapping out. I think I like the stiffer feel, but, as I said before, I haven’t really spent a lot of time with it. I feel like I’m still evaluating. This particular Jag comes with locking tuners, so between the tuners, the Mastery and the Descendant, it stays in tune like nothing I’ve ever seen before.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
There are several installation vids. Second one covers trem cavity size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G5VC59EOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrVmVtSPdPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQzwCn6SzM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G5VC59EOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrVmVtSPdPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQzwCn6SzM
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
Having watched that I am even more impressed with the unit and this man Swope also. I might get one of these for my MIJ Jazzmaster and such.timtam wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:02 pmThere are several installation vids. Second one covers trem cavity size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G5VC59EOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrVmVtSPdPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQzwCn6SzM
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This question has been on my mind since seeing these ^^
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
I haven't gotten my hands on one myself yet, but I did see somewhere that the strings go through a front loading keyhole design rather than from the rear like a standard JM trem.
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Re: Swope Descendant Vibrato
He's selling lefties for the same price too!!!
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