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Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:30 am
by Superfuzz
andtrea wrote: Probably a stupid question, and I hope not to be off-topic:
What pickups do Thurston Moore use on his Jazzmasters? Standard AVRI?
Most of his JMs are real vintage..

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:10 am
by mynameisjonas
there are rumours that he uses SD quarter pounders in a few of them.

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:52 am
by andtrea
Most of his JMs are real vintage..
But he bought a lot of new stuff after the famous theft of 1999...

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:39 pm
by OffYourFace
What about adding Lindy Fralin to the list of Jazzmaster Pickups?  I haven't heard them but he does great rewinds...

http://www.fralinpickups.com/jazzmaster.asp

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:38 pm
by GUITARmole
You could also add Vintage Vibe to the list of pickup manufacturers.  They make both Jag and Jazz pups:

http://www.vintagevibeguitars.com/pickup_sc.html#

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:44 pm
by 5L1V3R
mynameisjonas wrote: -Orange drop caps
WTH is an orange drop cap??

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:03 pm
by k o y l
It's a capacitor type.

It looks like this:

Image

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:04 pm
by 5L1V3R
k o y l wrote: It's a capacitor type.

It looks like this:

Image
Oh so it's a capacitor type...
What's that?

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:19 pm
by k o y l
What's that what ? the picture or an Orange drop cap ?

The pic is the wiring of one of my JM but I'm afraid I'm not able to make the history of Orange drop caps... Anyone ??

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:27 pm
by 5L1V3R
err...its not that important i was just curious is all ::)

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:01 am
by thingsthatfly
Hi im new,

I've just recently bought some seymour duncan pickups for my CIJ jazzmaster and I was wondering if they will fit my cij pickup covers, I ordered some american covers just incase but they havent arrived and im getting impatient.  I've had a little search around here and seen conflicting stuff, to me it seems strange if they didnt fit as people with cij jazzmasters are more likely to need new pickups then the american ones, then I have also read that the american pickup covers dont fit cij jazzmasters either, I thought it was a pretty standard mod but it seems to be getting complicated, any help would be appreciated

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:23 am
by k o y l
Of course they'll fit. You'll just have to file the magnet holes very little for them to be exactly aligned with the holes.

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:15 am
by thingsthatfly
thanks, does anyone know the actual reasoning behind CIJs having thinner pickups, did they make the assumption that people only like the way jazzmasters look but would prefer more conventional pickups or is it simply cheaper.  I've always wondered.

question 2: whilst im taking it apart to change the pickups is there anything I can do to reduce hum, its pretty noisey when only one pick up is on.  Thanks

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:58 pm
by RumorsOFsurF
thingsthatfly wrote: thanks, does anyone know the actual reasoning behind CIJs having thinner pickups, did they make the assumption that people only like the way jazzmasters look but would prefer more conventional pickups or is it simply cheaper.  I've always wondered.

I'll never understand the logic behind the electronics in the CIJ Fenders.  It could be cheaper, I guess.


question 2: whilst im taking it apart to change the pickups is there anything I can do to reduce hum, its pretty noisey when only one pick up is on.  Thanks
Later CIJ guitars don't really have much in the way of shielding.  They paint the cavities with a "shielding paint", but that's it.  You can use foil or something similar.

Here's a thread on shielding:
index.php?topic=9132.0

Re: -=Jazzmaster and Jaguar Pickups and Electronics FAQ=-

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:54 am
by mynameisjonas
RumorsOFsurF wrote:
thingsthatfly wrote: thanks, does anyone know the actual reasoning behind CIJs having thinner pickups, did they make the assumption that people only like the way jazzmasters look but would prefer more conventional pickups or is it simply cheaper.  I've always wondered.

I'll never understand the logic behind the electronics in the CIJ Fenders.  It could be cheaper, I guess.

i think it could be that the people who were in charge of designing the japanese jazzmaster were trying to find ways to make it more popular, and thought that one way of doing that was to make it sound more like a strat. you have to remember that this was just a few of years after fender USA decided to drop the jazzmaster cause it wasn't selling.
if you forget for a second what jazzmasters are supposed to sound like, the MIJ/CIJ JM pickups actually sound really good. they definitely have more of a traditional fender twang, and for someone who is used to playing strats i imagine a japanese jazzmaster would fit in more easily into their arsenal than a US jazzmaster.

if there are financial reasons i really don't understand how and why. i mean, they have to manufacture unique jazzmaster bobbins anyway, so i can't see how making them flatter and wider would be more expensive...