Guitar Lubricant
- GreenKnee
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Guitar Lubricant
So I've been using this stuff at work recently:
I've noticed it's very similar in appearance and consistency to Big Bend's Nut Sauce, which I have used for years on my guitars. This led me to conduct a bit of searching with the terms 'superlube guitar' to see if anybody else had used it for this purpose. To my surprise, Dunlop sell a product called Superlube!
I'd bet anything they're the same product.
2ml of Dunlop Superlube: £12.99
85g of Loctite Superlube: £12.85
I've 'borrowed' a tube from work and it's more than enough to last a lifetime of lubricating nuts and saddles.
I've noticed it's very similar in appearance and consistency to Big Bend's Nut Sauce, which I have used for years on my guitars. This led me to conduct a bit of searching with the terms 'superlube guitar' to see if anybody else had used it for this purpose. To my surprise, Dunlop sell a product called Superlube!
I'd bet anything they're the same product.
2ml of Dunlop Superlube: £12.99
85g of Loctite Superlube: £12.85
I've 'borrowed' a tube from work and it's more than enough to last a lifetime of lubricating nuts and saddles.
- Embenny
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
I don't personally use anything containing PTFE that might make contact with skin.
Non-food-grade PTFE contains traces of a highly carcinogenic compound used in its manufacture. Food-grade PTFE is a separate matter I won't get into, but I personally would stick with plain old graphite for lubricating guitar nuts. If the slot is properly filed, you don't need industrial lubricants for the sake of tuning stability.
Edit: just realized the big tube is food-grade. Wouldn't trust the guitar-specific one, though, but it's more expensive anyway. Nice find.
Non-food-grade PTFE contains traces of a highly carcinogenic compound used in its manufacture. Food-grade PTFE is a separate matter I won't get into, but I personally would stick with plain old graphite for lubricating guitar nuts. If the slot is properly filed, you don't need industrial lubricants for the sake of tuning stability.
Edit: just realized the big tube is food-grade. Wouldn't trust the guitar-specific one, though, but it's more expensive anyway. Nice find.
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- GreenKnee
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
Interesting, care to indulge me in why PTFE is bad? I use all sorts of industrial lubricants and cleaners etc in my line of work and so I feel I should be aware of any nasties I could come in contact with. I've kind of gone with the ignorant approach of 'if it's available to use it's probably ok'.mbene085 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:21 amI don't personally use anything containing PTFE that might make contact with skin.
Non-food-grade PTFE contains traces of a highly carcinogenic compound used in its manufacture. Food-grade PTFE is a separate matter I won't get into, but I personally would stick with plain old graphite for lubricating guitar nuts. If the slot is properly filed, you don't need industrial lubricants for the sake of tuning stability.
Edit: just realized the big tube is food-grade. Wouldn't trust the guitar-specific one, though, but it's more expensive anyway. Nice find.
I have bone nuts fitted to all my guitars by my luthier but I still like to add some lube on all points of contact (unless a rocking bridge) to ensure good tuning stability when I'm wailing around on the vibrato arm. When I have a look at friends' guitars that won't stay in tune I find simply swapping the strings and lubricating everything cures it.
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
Yeah I've been using this for a while. I initially started using it to lubricate my tattoo machines at work as it was safe and I just gradually gravitated to using it on more things. A tube that size will last you a lifetime
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- Embenny
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
There are many safety and ecological concerns with Teflon, but the biggest is PFOA (also known as C8). It's a very well-established carcinogen and is linked to cancers of the kidney and testicles, as well as birth defects and thyroid disease. It doesn't break down in the environment, and can be found in the blood of 98% of Americans. DuPont dumped it freely into the ocean and Ohio River for decades.GreenKnee wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:23 pmInteresting, care to indulge me in why PTFE is bad? I use all sorts of industrial lubricants and cleaners etc in my line of work and so I feel I should be aware of any nasties I could come in contact with. I've kind of gone with the ignorant approach of 'if it's available to use it's probably ok'.
I have bone nuts fitted to all my guitars by my luthier but I still like to add some lube on all points of contact (unless a rocking bridge) to ensure good tuning stability when I'm wailing around on the vibrato arm. When I have a look at friends' guitars that won't stay in tune I find simply swapping the strings and lubricating everything cures it.
PFOA was phased out of the manufacture of food-grade PTFE in the US in recent years, and has been phased out of some - but not all - non-food-grade PTFE has eliminated it.
DuPont began substituting another compound they label "GenX" that has, shockingly, been showing evidence that it's just as dangerous. But, you know, there isn't conclusive data on that, so they have plausible deniability to keep going with it until enough people develop cancer and/or until it's measurable in the entire human population's bloodstream.
So, I still generally avoid teflon whenever I can.
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- timtam
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
Most but not all of the dozen or so "guitar" lubricant vendors either list or at least hint at their main ingredients. Big Bends Nut Sauce describes itself as "Teflon and silicone in a proprietary base". Generally guitar lubricants fall into 4 categories (below), which can be found much more cheaply at the hardware store:
1. white lithium grease
2. PTFE lubricant/grease (chemically Polytetrafluoroethylene, often just termed 'Teflon', a Dupont brand name)
3. silicone grease
4. graphite powder/gel (at its simplest ... pencil graphite)
It's easier to find a Safety Data Sheet for the hardware store products too. Like for the Super Lube product above:
https://www.super-lube.com/Content/Imag ... EN_sds.pdf
1. white lithium grease
2. PTFE lubricant/grease (chemically Polytetrafluoroethylene, often just termed 'Teflon', a Dupont brand name)
3. silicone grease
4. graphite powder/gel (at its simplest ... pencil graphite)
It's easier to find a Safety Data Sheet for the hardware store products too. Like for the Super Lube product above:
https://www.super-lube.com/Content/Imag ... EN_sds.pdf
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
Super Lube = $5.49 at Amazon for a 3 oz tube. That should do my guitars until at least I die. Thank you!
https://smile.amazon.com/Super-Lube-210 ... 254&sr=8-3
https://smile.amazon.com/Super-Lube-210 ... 254&sr=8-3
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
I use a pencil I stole from Ikea
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
Nah, these are the ones for filling out orders in shop which no one can decide if free or not.Norrin Radd wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:42 amDid you steal the indecipherable instructions that go along with it as well?
Definately gives a Swedish tonality to my guitar though.
- whitewatersky
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
jorri wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:12 amNah, these are the ones for filling out orders in shop which no one can decide if free or not.Norrin Radd wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:42 amDid you steal the indecipherable instructions that go along with it as well?
Definately gives a Swedish tonality to my guitar though.
- jvin248
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
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Greases of any kind are a dust and grit magnet. Soon you have higher friction with the grease than without.
Best is Dry Graphite ... choose a pencil or 'lock lube' container of graphite powder used to lubricate door locks (works great for that).
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Greases of any kind are a dust and grit magnet. Soon you have higher friction with the grease than without.
Best is Dry Graphite ... choose a pencil or 'lock lube' container of graphite powder used to lubricate door locks (works great for that).
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- GreenKnee
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Re: Guitar Lubricant
I use graphite powder a lot for work and that stuff gets EVERYWHERE. I would not have a bottle of it anywhere near my house let alone one of my guitars.
I find grease to work well for lubricating guitars, it's not as though they are exposed to highly abrasive powders or grits, just the dust in the air really. Upon restringing I tend to clean out the nut slots, saddles, trees etc and then reapply fresh lubricant, job done