An original ALL GOLD '62 Jazzmaster

[triviani]

First time I see one like this.

Link, with price http://www.tcgakki.com/items04/tc045393.html

[so1om]

[spacecadet]

Ha! $32,000!

Beautiful guitar, but...

[Sinuata]

I just bought two. I think I'll relic one and convert the other into a blacktop. Anyone want the gold trem? Never mind, I guess I'll just melt it down.

[Haddock]

I just bought two. I think I'll relic one and convert the other into a blacktop. Anyone want the gold trem? Never mind, I guess I'll just melt it down.

Ok, the gold-plated Floyd Rose has been shipped, you should have it in a week.


The coil-cable-left-in-the-case-under-the guitar syndrome has struck again ...

[fullerplast]

Looks a lot like my old gold '59, except I didn't have gold hardware. And of course, mine was a refin.

I like that look.

[Lobsterdeth]

oh fug dat shit is slick

slick

40k karat

[parry]

"It is not uncommon for people to think in Collector's Items in even rarer gold color of rare age but harmonic, such as wrapping up a whole in the best part, the thickness is felt, sound output is out nuances of strength and weakness in technique over its own hail will be noticeable around would, but when I hooked can taste elation that is used to play to forget the time. It is a guitar that can promise a partnership of life in individuals does not seem to be able to meet again. "

[mcjt]

how can it be all original 62 with a 1958-59 gold guard?
it has a row of patent numbers on the headstock, which would rule out a 1958-59....
it looks like a 61-62 with a gold guard put on it.

[spacecadet]

how can it be all original 62 with a 1958-59 gold guard?
it has a row of patent numbers on the headstock, which would rule out a 1958-59....
it looks like a 61-62 with a gold guard put on it.

I've learned that you can never rule anything out with early-ish Fenders. Maybe it was a special build for a "friend of Fender" and they had a few gold guards still lying around. I don't know how this store's proving provenance, though; that's always the tough part with guitars like that, even though one-offs definitely exist.

[LanceM71]

None more gold

[mcjt]

it looks like a 61-62 with a gold guard put on it.

I've learned that you can never rule anything out with early-ish Fenders. Maybe it was a special build for a "friend of Fender" and they had a few gold guards still lying around. I don't know how this store's proving provenance, though; that's always the tough part with guitars like that, even though one-offs definitely exist.

Ah, so i understand you agree with my opinion!

i have only ruled out that it cannot be a 58-59 (as the guard would suggest) with a 62+ decal. I state that there is a potential discrepancy, the type that any vintage collector should know about Jazzmasters.
Therefore, any serious buyer would want to check for a body date as this guard is incorrect for a 1962 vintage.

They are asking over USD 32,000 for this guitar. All the more reason to mention discrepancies.

I'm in manufacturing and things don't lie around much. those aluminum guards back in the day were more expensive and time consuming to make- and then didn't match the new template. i doubt Leo would keep many for spares or keep them for 3 years just for the hell of it. But you have a point. who knows?

Sure enough, if it has a 62 body date, original paint, nail holes AND nine matching screw holes, then this is one VERY special jazzy.

[tonewoods]

The coil-cable-left-in-the-case-under-the guitar syndrome has struck again ...

Ahhh, another antiquing technique...

[spacecadet]

Ah, so i understand you agree with my opinion!

i have only ruled out that it cannot be a 58-59 (as the guard would suggest) with a 62+ decal.

I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing, but I don't think the store is claiming it's a 58-59

My only point is that a person couldn't automatically discount it on the basis of it not being a normal production model.

They are asking over USD 32,000 for this guitar. All the more reason to mention discrepancies.

Of course.

I'm in manufacturing and things don't lie around much. those aluminum guards back in the day were more expensive and time consuming to make- and then didn't match the new template. i doubt Leo would keep many for spares or keep them for 3 years just for the hell of it. But you have a point. who knows?

I'm sure they *did* keep a few around for spares, at least for a certain period of time, just for customer service reasons. I mean literally a few. That would just be common sense.

At a certain point, no doubt they were disposed of somehow. Wouldn't surprise me if they ended up on guitars rather than being thrown out. 3 years does not seem that long to me; I run a business myself and there is a tendency to put stuff on a shelf somewhere and forget about it for a while. Then one day you're clearing an office out and you say "hey, look at this, I forgot these were here. Let's figure out what to do with them." It happens all the time.

Again, all I am saying is that I don't see it as *impossible* that this is original just because it's a 62 with a gold guard. I agree with you that there'd need to be more evidence to prove that it is, though, and that it's more likely that it isn't. I am just giving the store the benefit of the doubt, as someone who wouldn't be buying it anyway. I personally wouldn't pay $32,000 for it even if it was original.

[fullerplast]

It would be interesting to see the routing, to see if it's actually routed for that guard or not. If so, I highly doubt it's a '62.