Best cheap backup Jazzmaster with a good size neck profile? *that's not a Mascis Squire*

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Post by Embenny » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:16 pm

Guys, let's get serious here. Only a Jazzmaster is a Jazzmaster. Knock off this nonsense with Casinos and whatnot.

Only a Jazzmaster will do. Here's a legit Fender - and without a stupid TOM bridge. Price is right too. String changes are like 33% cheaper too.

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Post by andy_tchp » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:29 pm

mbene085 wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:16 pm
Guys, let's get serious here. Only a Jazzmaster is a Jazzmaster. Knock off this nonsense with Casinos and whatnot.

Only a Jazzmaster will do. Here's a legit Fender - and without a stupid TOM bridge. Price is right too. String changes are like 33% cheaper too.

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Post by Larsongs » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:41 pm

andy_tchp wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:29 pm
mbene085 wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:16 pm
Guys, let's get serious here. Only a Jazzmaster is a Jazzmaster. Knock off this nonsense with Casinos and whatnot.

Only a Jazzmaster will do. Here's a legit Fender - and without a stupid TOM bridge. Price is right too. String changes are like 33% cheaper too.

Image
No bigsby :-/

But famously used by Paul McCartney for 'Exile on Main Street' :-*
This has to be a Joke! Another Thread goes off the rails…… I hope the OP finds another Lacquer 60’s…. Best of luck!

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Re: Best cheap backup Jazzmaster with a good size neck profile?

Post by dave19er » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:19 pm

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Classic lacquer is the best bargain in guitars ever. Especially if you get an earlier model with Rosewood.

Neck fairly chunky.
The Jaguar classic lacquer seem to be a bit hard to find

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Post by Doc Sportello » Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:11 pm

dave19er wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:19 pm
rhythmjones wrote:
Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:04 pm
Classic lacquer is the best bargain in guitars ever. Especially if you get an earlier model with Rosewood.

Neck fairly chunky.
The Jaguar classic lacquer seem to be a bit hard to find
I had one of the CL Fender Jags from the first run with rosewood, great guitar but sold it during the pandemic since prices were high and I'd bought one of those FSR shell pink Squier Jags on a whim. Turned out they sound and play almost identically so the CL was collecting dust. Perhaps not lacquer but otherwise 95% similar, with the AV65's being wax potted but sound wise, there was very little difference through a 65PR and a 68 Custom Vibrolux.

As for finding an affordable JM with a chunky neck on a budget: I'd still recommend the recent Squier FSR JM in LPB. Someone commented their JMJM's had different neck profiles from the recent FSR so ymmv. FMIC may have changed the JMJM's neck profile between consequent runs, but my SQJMJM was also a first run with rosewood and the chunky neck. I tried 3 of the recent FSR's: They all had their finish issues but the neck profile was almost identical to the initial JMJM's, at least the ones I played and the one I owned: Very comfortable.

Hope you find one that's to your liking!

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Post by dave19er » Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:20 pm

Doc Sportello wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:11 pm
dave19er wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:19 pm
rhythmjones wrote:
Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:04 pm
Classic lacquer is the best bargain in guitars ever. Especially if you get an earlier model with Rosewood.

Neck fairly chunky.
The Jaguar classic lacquer seem to be a bit hard to find
I had one of the CL Fender Jags from the first run with rosewood, great guitar but sold it during the pandemic since prices were high and I'd bought one of those FSR shell pink Squier Jags on a whim. Turned out they sound and play almost identically so the CL was collecting dust. Perhaps not lacquer but otherwise 95% similar, with the AV65's being wax potted but sound wise, there was very little difference through a 65PR and a 68 Custom Vibrolux.
That’s cool that the Squier was that close. I’ve played a few, and been quite impressed (other than the dry fretboard and poor fretwork)

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Post by Larsongs » Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:38 pm

dave19er wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:20 pm
Doc Sportello wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:11 pm
dave19er wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:19 pm


The Jaguar classic lacquer seem to be a bit hard to find
I had one of the CL Fender Jags from the first run with rosewood, great guitar but sold it during the pandemic since prices were high and I'd bought one of those FSR shell pink Squier Jags on a whim. Turned out they sound and play almost identically so the CL was collecting dust. Perhaps not lacquer but otherwise 95% similar, with the AV65's being wax potted but sound wise, there was very little difference through a 65PR and a 68 Custom Vibrolux.
That’s cool that the Squier was that close. I’ve played a few, and been quite impressed (other than the dry fretboard and poor fretwork)
Dry Fretboard, poor Fretwork, cheap Electronics & Pots, sub par Asian Pickups & pretty lousy overall QC… Yeah, they’re almost identical.. LOL!

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Post by dave19er » Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:38 pm

Larsongs wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:38 pm
dave19er wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:20 pm
Doc Sportello wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:11 pm


I had one of the CL Fender Jags from the first run with rosewood, great guitar but sold it during the pandemic since prices were high and I'd bought one of those FSR shell pink Squier Jags on a whim. Turned out they sound and play almost identically so the CL was collecting dust. Perhaps not lacquer but otherwise 95% similar, with the AV65's being wax potted but sound wise, there was very little difference through a 65PR and a 68 Custom Vibrolux.
That’s cool that the Squier was that close. I’ve played a few, and been quite impressed (other than the dry fretboard and poor fretwork)
Dry Fretboard, poor Fretwork, cheap Electronics & Pots, sub par Asian Pickups & pretty lousy overall QC… Yeah, they’re almost identical.. LOL!
I think it really depends on your needs and usage. Most people would never be able to hear the difference between the different electronics/pots and pickups, especially if they’re just plugging into an inexpensive amp or occasionally playing onstage w a band (a lot more Squiers get gigged than Custom Shop guitars), and they’re only likely to notice the difference in durability. If all you’re looking to do is dork around or mod a guitar, especially if it’s not your main gigging one, one of those Squiers could be a lot of fun. It’s different expectations for significantly differently priced instruments (and rapidly diminishing returns at the higher end of the cost spectrum).

Most people can’t tell the difference between my Mexican strat to my old American Standard to my Wildwood 10, and wonder why I need so many of the same guitar. And they’re all exceptional guitars (the Mexican strat plays and sounds nearly as good as my WW10, and was purchased used for a small fraction of the price; it does have upgraded pickups and electronics, though).

All that to say, for most people and most use cases, the different Jaguars are close enough to be nearly identical.

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Post by LVC » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:01 pm

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Well, the guy just cancelled and refunded my order for no apparent reason :fp:
So, Johnny, did you end up buying anything else?
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Post by MattK » Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:06 pm

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Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:20 pm
Why not get a nice old-ish neck you can really bond with and pick up a loaded Classic Vibe body (or buy a CV and sell the neck). That way you could be open to e.g. a Greco Strat as well. So much great 70s Fujigen stuff out there.
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Post by Larsongs » Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:49 pm

dave19er wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:38 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:38 pm
dave19er wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:20 pm


That’s cool that the Squier was that close. I’ve played a few, and been quite impressed (other than the dry fretboard and poor fretwork)
Dry Fretboard, poor Fretwork, cheap Electronics & Pots, sub par Asian Pickups & pretty lousy overall QC… Yeah, they’re almost identical.. LOL!
I think it really depends on your needs and usage. Most people would never be able to hear the difference between the different electronics/pots and pickups, especially if they’re just plugging into an inexpensive amp or occasionally playing onstage w a band (a lot more Squiers get gigged than Custom Shop guitars), and they’re only likely to notice the difference in durability. If all you’re looking to do is dork around or mod a guitar, especially if it’s not your main gigging one, one of those Squiers could be a lot of fun. It’s different expectations for significantly differently priced instruments (and rapidly diminishing returns at the higher end of the cost spectrum).

Most people can’t tell the difference between my Mexican strat to my old American Standard to my Wildwood 10, and wonder why I need so many of the same guitar. And they’re all exceptional guitars (the Mexican strat plays and sounds nearly as good as my WW10, and was purchased used for a small fraction of the price; it does have upgraded pickups and electronics, though).

All that to say, for most people and most use cases, the different Jaguars are close enough to be nearly identical.
While part of that maybe true the thing that matters most is my personal Sound & Tone desire.. Also, the quality of the Instrument I’m playing.. I can see, feel & hear the difference.... It has to please me..

I doubt you’d sell your old American Standard, or Wildwood 10 & just keep your MIM Strat & be content… Undoubtedly very soon you’d regret it…

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Post by dave19er » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:50 pm

Larsongs wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:49 pm
dave19er wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:38 pm
Larsongs wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:38 pm


Dry Fretboard, poor Fretwork, cheap Electronics & Pots, sub par Asian Pickups & pretty lousy overall QC… Yeah, they’re almost identical.. LOL!
I think it really depends on your needs and usage. Most people would never be able to hear the difference between the different electronics/pots and pickups, especially if they’re just plugging into an inexpensive amp or occasionally playing onstage w a band (a lot more Squiers get gigged than Custom Shop guitars), and they’re only likely to notice the difference in durability. If all you’re looking to do is dork around or mod a guitar, especially if it’s not your main gigging one, one of those Squiers could be a lot of fun. It’s different expectations for significantly differently priced instruments (and rapidly diminishing returns at the higher end of the cost spectrum).

Most people can’t tell the difference between my Mexican strat to my old American Standard to my Wildwood 10, and wonder why I need so many of the same guitar. And they’re all exceptional guitars (the Mexican strat plays and sounds nearly as good as my WW10, and was purchased used for a small fraction of the price; it does have upgraded pickups and electronics, though).

All that to say, for most people and most use cases, the different Jaguars are close enough to be nearly identical.
While part of that maybe true the thing that matters most is my personal Sound & Tone desire.. Also, the quality of the Instrument I’m playing.. I can see, feel & hear the difference.... It has to please me..

I doubt you’d sell your old American Standard, or Wildwood 10 & just keep your MIM Strat & be content… Undoubtedly very soon you’d regret it…
Oh no. I’m not selling any of those any time soon. But I’m a corksniffer with ridiculously high standards for my instruments. I play with a lot of musicians who manage to sound perfectly fine on gigs with instruments that are Squiers or Epiphones or other inexpensive brands.

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Post by JSett » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:49 pm

LVC wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:01 pm

So, Johnny, did you end up buying anything else?
Not yet, no. I'm still looking and debating what to do/which direction to take (and work has slowed up a bit so money is flowing in slower).

I'll find something, maybe even put together a partscaster
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Post by Veitchy » Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:45 am

sal paradise wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:21 pm
Right, it’s clear now: get the Schecter Robert Smith model. Or the Brian May guitar. That’s basically a Jazzmaster.
Not that we're talking jags but the Red Special is a shortscale...

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