Rotten Relics

Discussion of newer designs, copies and reissue offset-waist instruments.
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Re: Rotten Relics

Post by Rob » Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:48 am

"Maybe my vintage Jazzmaster isn't worth $13,000 after I ruined it with a rotten relic job. No... no, it's worth $13,000 because I ruined it with a rotten relic job. Dignified."

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Re: Rotten Relics

Post by Nico » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:21 am

That heavy relic fad was just one stupid phase.

It's funny to say but I never had the money to buy a factory relic'd guitar like a CS or from a boutique builder... I could only afford nicely aged vintages or AVRI reissues.

Looking back at the trend now, I have to admit that pretty much all of CS relic jobs are pretty disgusting and completely unrealistic. And another thing; WHY would you want a guitar that upstages any rock legend REAL relic'd guitar?

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Re: Rotten Relics

Post by marqueemoon » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:23 am

Very natural looking wear around the tuner posts and the edges of the headstock. :fp:

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Re: Rotten Relics

Post by Embenny » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:43 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:23 am
Very natural looking wear around the tuner posts and the edges of the headstock. :fp:
It's like they thought the headstock is played like a wine glass or something.
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Re: Rotten Relics

Post by Wucan » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:33 am

Relicing is just romanticized wear. I'll have a sliver of respect for shops churning these guitars out when they beat the shit out of the back with a belt buckle and file the frets until they are flat. And if they're Gibson style guitars, break the headstock then glue it back together.

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Re: Rotten Relics

Post by LVC » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:40 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:23 am
Very natural looking wear around the tuner posts and the edges of the headstock. :fp:
Well, the seller does mention it has an aura.
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Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

Post by Shorty Medlock 5151 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:14 am

Okay...I have always been one of those guys that takes good care of my guitars and equipment....so this whole relic guitar deal has miffed.

Would I buy a new $50,000 car/truck then bash it in so it looked 40 years old? Not likely. Buy a new house then smash the windows and drywall to make it look lived in?

So I guess I not the one to buy a multi thousand dollar guitar and put a grinder and hammer to it.

But wait....maybe I sould buy a new $5k amp, take a grinder to the tolex, punch a hole in the speaker and soak the chassis on salt water thus creating a whole new segment in the music biz...

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Re: Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

Post by JSett » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:33 am

This subject has been thrashed enough on forums and message boards enough for the last 20+years I don't think we need another one, do we?

And yes, I've seen people buy $50k hotrods and deliberately 'Rat Look' them. It's a thing. Bad example.
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Re: Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

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Re: Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

Post by JSett » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:30 pm

Dan gets very angsty about it. As he is entitled to thanks to the beauty of differing opinions.

I am relatively indifferent to it, as long as it's not done poorly. Which is think is the general consensus around here. I am currently in the middle of some light aging of one of my guitars. I used it 'in battle' for over a decade and had earned its many, many wounds and a recent refin left it feeling odd. So I'm painstaking recreating it's previous honest wear - just in its new colour. Do I feel like a fake? No. Do I care? No. Is it your guitar? No. So should you care? No.

Now go play your guitar
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Re: Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

Post by marqueemoon » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:56 pm

Denim is the best analogue I can think of. Corny fake wear has been a thing forever, and on the opposite end of the spectrum you have the raw denim zealots.

Relicing is not what I would call important to me, but I have two guitars with some intentional dings and scrapes and they’re good instruments for reasons that don’t have anything to do with that, so I’m glad I didn’t rule them out.

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Re: Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

Post by Telliot » Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:25 pm

I've gone ahead and merged 15 years' worth of relic threads for your convenience. ::)
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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Re: Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

Post by JSett » Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:59 pm

Telliot wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:25 pm
I've gone ahead and merged 15 years' worth of relic threads for your convenience. ::)
Amazing
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Re: Relic'd guitars....cool or stoopid?

Post by Embenny » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:09 pm

Telliot wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:25 pm
I've gone ahead and merged 15 years' worth of relic threads for your convenience. ::)
You can't just make a giant, old thread. You have to break in a new thread slowly over time or it all just looks wrong.
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Re: Rotten Relics

Post by Telliot » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:09 pm

:D
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.

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