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You’re right, the Fender Mexico sonic blue is more pale compared to the Fender Japan sonic blue.DavidG wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:11 amJust an observation on the new sonic blue model. Are they using the correct sonic blue (i.e. did the originals have Fender Japans interpretation of sonic blue, which was much like daphne). Seems pale to me, like the actual sonic blue outside of Fender Japan!
I've never had a jagstang, just going off Kurt's sonic blue mustang, which was the deeper blue.
I think the japan sonic blue might be my favourite of them all. I had one of those cobain mustangs in sonic blue, shouldn't have let that one go.neutralomen wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:38 amYes fender Japan's sonic blue is not really sonic blue.it's also not daphne as it is slightly greener than daphme. Fender Japan sonic blue is almost a kind of aqua or light turquoise.
Sonic blue in the USA I like to refer to as "toothpaste" blue. No green in it, and a kind of blue-white.
Iirc the second batch of mijs from 2008 had the USA style toothpaste sonic blue.DavidG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:33 amI think the japan sonic blue might be my favourite of them all. I had one of those cobain mustangs in sonic blue, shouldn't have let that one go.neutralomen wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:38 amYes fender Japan's sonic blue is not really sonic blue.it's also not daphne as it is slightly greener than daphme. Fender Japan sonic blue is almost a kind of aqua or light turquoise.
Sonic blue in the USA I like to refer to as "toothpaste" blue. No green in it, and a kind of blue-white.
If they've indeed used the wrong blue for this model, it's a lazy reissue. Colour shouldn't usually matter this much, but when you're asking people to pay over £1000 for something very specific it's got to be right.
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Yep, if you browse through a couple of YouTube videos, there is a wide variety of sonic blue shades across the MIJ/CIJ Jag-Stangs. From almost greenish ones to really toothpaste blue ones like the MIM Jag-Stangs.neutralomen wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pmIirc the second batch of mijs from 2008 had the USA style toothpaste sonic blue.DavidG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:33 amI think the japan sonic blue might be my favourite of them all. I had one of those cobain mustangs in sonic blue, shouldn't have let that one go.neutralomen wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:38 amYes fender Japan's sonic blue is not really sonic blue.it's also not daphne as it is slightly greener than daphme. Fender Japan sonic blue is almost a kind of aqua or light turquoise.
Sonic blue in the USA I like to refer to as "toothpaste" blue. No green in it, and a kind of blue-white.
If they've indeed used the wrong blue for this model, it's a lazy reissue. Colour shouldn't usually matter this much, but when you're asking people to pay over £1000 for something very specific it's got to be right.
I mean if we're being technical, I think Kurt really wanted aged daphne. His original drawing said "aqua blue green(like old mustangs). He's referring to the greening and darkening of old daphme mustangs. At least I think so *shrug*
Being even more pedantic, weren't the original Mustangs only ever referred to as red/white/blue, with Daphne blue / Dakota red etc. only ever specified on reissues?neutralomen wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pmIirc the second batch of mijs from 2008 had the USA style toothpaste sonic blue.DavidG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:33 amI think the japan sonic blue might be my favourite of them all. I had one of those cobain mustangs in sonic blue, shouldn't have let that one go.neutralomen wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:38 amYes fender Japan's sonic blue is not really sonic blue.it's also not daphne as it is slightly greener than daphme. Fender Japan sonic blue is almost a kind of aqua or light turquoise.
Sonic blue in the USA I like to refer to as "toothpaste" blue. No green in it, and a kind of blue-white.
If they've indeed used the wrong blue for this model, it's a lazy reissue. Colour shouldn't usually matter this much, but when you're asking people to pay over £1000 for something very specific it's got to be right.
I mean if we're being technical, I think Kurt really wanted aged daphne. His original drawing said "aqua blue green(like old mustangs). He's referring to the greening and darkening of old daphme mustangs. At least I think so *shrug*
Stephen_42 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:32 amneutralomen wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pmI'm fairly certain that Kurt meant the vaguely greened color that Daphne Mustangs turned over time. The Mustang he played in the In Bloom video (but never gigged?) would have been the model for that:DavidG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:33 amOn top of that, I think the label on Kurt's sketch is pretty ambiguous - we have no real way of knowing if he meant a very saturated Japanese sonic blue like his old Mustangs, a very pale green like yellowed old MiA Mustangs, or anything in between. In any case, I think it's cool that there's a wide spectrum of Jag-stang blues. It makes each one a little more individual. Funny that the fiesta reds (that I've seen, at least) all seem pretty uniform when the blues vary as much as they do.