Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

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Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by matbard » Sun May 09, 2021 11:00 am

Coming from Fender Japan to the rest of the world:


https://www.thomannmusic.com/fender_tra ... hc_lpb.htm

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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by Surfysonic » Sun May 09, 2021 11:13 am

Ohhhh man, I really didn't need to see this... :? Nice find!

I'm loving that some of the Fender Japan offsets have U-shape necks.8)
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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by sunburster » Sun May 09, 2021 3:54 pm

Looking great until I read:

40mm nut width. :(

And

Basswood body. :wtf:

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Post by Surfysonic » Sun May 09, 2021 4:08 pm

Yeah, I think I was too infatuated with the neck...then I read about the basswood body - I'll pass on it for that price...still, nice looking Jag, though! I might end up going for a Mod Shop build in any case when feasible.
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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by BoringPostcards » Sun May 09, 2021 5:13 pm

Basswood's bad reputation is undeserved, in my opinion. My purple Mascis was Basswood and it was a sweet guitar. It was very resonant and loud unplugged. Fantastic guitar.
Boutique bass builders use it on $10K instruments.
It's generally light. Sure, it looks bad on clear and opaque instruments, as the grain is boring and plain, but with a solid colour there are few actual negatives.
It's soft and dents easy. That's the only negative I can think of to really be an issue for some users.
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Post by CROSS_guitars » Sun May 09, 2021 6:30 pm

OMG!
Japan have really stepped up!

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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by HarlowTheFish » Sun May 09, 2021 6:57 pm

Honestly BoringPostcards's got the right of it -- el cheapo basswood like you find in a budget guitar is pretty ratty, but so is any wood at that price point.

The really nice basswood like Ibanez/Fujigen and Fender Japan use is about as sturdy as alder, and weighs about as much as a lighter piece of swamp ash, which is great for bigger-bodied guitars. I'll take ash or pine for a clear finish, mostly for the more interesting grain, but other than visuals there's really no downside as long as the wood itself is good quality.

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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by sunburster » Sun May 09, 2021 7:25 pm

Basswood is too soft. It dents too easily. That's what I hate about it.

And do any of you have a guitar with a 40mm nut width (Standard Fender size is 42mm)? I find that unplayable near the nut. It's like an A neck from the 60s.

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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by Veitchy » Sun May 09, 2021 8:51 pm

I'm suprised about the 40mm nut. My CVJM has a 42mm nut and that is about as small as I reckon I could go. My Tele is 1-1.5mm wider and you definitely feel the difference.

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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by timtam » Sun May 09, 2021 10:51 pm

Another source suggests 41.02mm, not far from vintage Fender (1-5/8"; 41.28mm). Although others also confirm 1.578" (40.08 mm). Modern is usually 1-11/16"; 42.86mm). The U shape is thick which is as much of an issue for me.
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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by matbard » Sun May 09, 2021 11:09 pm

I had a foto flame Jaguar in the '90s and I missed it so much! It had basswood body and I think most of Japanese production in the "golden age" used this kind of wood. My first electric guitar, a LPB Japanese Stratocaster, had basswood body.

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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by Mervynskidmore » Mon May 10, 2021 3:28 am

What would people go for, this or an OTM Vintera for a bit cheaper?

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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by Bradley-Jazz » Mon May 10, 2021 4:23 am

matbard wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 11:09 pm
I had a foto flame Jaguar in the '90s and I missed it so much! It had basswood body and I think most of Japanese production in the "golden age" used this kind of wood. My first electric guitar, a LPB Japanese Stratocaster, had basswood body.
My MIJ Jazzmaster is basswood (under solid CAR), and it has always been a great guitar. The poly is also pretty tough(!) so denting hasn't been a significant issue. It's also no heavier than my MIA Johnny Marr Jag.

I don't think I'd care for the 40mm nut though, if that is what it is.
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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by Surfysonic » Mon May 10, 2021 5:10 am

I didn't know about the varying qualities of basswood - good to know, thanks. If these MIJ basswood bodies are of decent quality, that's good enough for me.

My basswood body guitars - MIC Squier J Mascis Sig JM, MII Squier VM Mustang, and MII Squier VM Jag - have all held up fairly well over the years; having owned the J Mascis JM the longest. Having only been aware of the soft and denty cheaper quality, that, combined with the price point of this new model initially put me off.

I still prefer the U-Shape neck on this model even though the nut width does sound a bit narrow for me. Hopefully, someone on here will snap one up when they're released and provide a review. 8)
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Re: Fender Traditional 60s Jaguar LBP with matching headstock

Post by Arc » Mon May 10, 2021 6:18 am

Are we really sure about the specs? It says 25,5” scale length.. that I find difficult to believe.

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