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GilmourD wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:23 am

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mekhem wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:28 am

I think they use the same thread pattern as EOM Fender - dont know whet that is though

Unfortunately, they are unthreaded. I'll have to measure the OD of the staytrem arm in comparison to a Fender arm and drill out a fender tip.

I was able to press a Fender tip onto one of mine. Just took some lovin'.

Am I correct in understanding that there are no threads on the arm?

Synchro wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:36 am

GilmourD wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:23 am

javier-san wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:06 pm

Unfortunately, they are unthreaded. I'll have to measure the OD of the staytrem arm in comparison to a Fender arm and drill out a fender tip.

I was able to press a Fender tip onto one of mine. Just took some lovin'.

Am I correct in understanding that there are no threads on the arm?

Yup. They are unthreaded.

Thanks for the info.

Anyone receive their Staytrem bridge in the last few weeks? It's the last piece I need for my build and I'm on week 12 (ordered the second week of November).

Not trying to seem impatient, it'll come when it comes of course. More worried about when it hits the mail since Texas has been dealing with some severe mail delays.

mikeyjames56 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:09 am

Anyone receive their Staytrem bridge in the last few weeks? It's the last piece I need for my build and I'm on week 12 (ordered the second week of November).

Yes, order placed in the last week of September —> arrived 3 weeks ago

Just got my order today. Originally placed it on October 14th, but wasn't invoiced/shipped until about a week ago, so it gives you an idea of the current waiting time.

Product is stellar as always though

Just placed an order, so will keep you in the loop. I'm doing a few bits to various guitars, so happy to wait a while!

I ordered one october 19 and it will arrive in the mail tomorrow.

I’ve been on the fence about ordering one. I’ve always fixed my offset problems with Mustang bridges.
Is the Staytrem really that good of an improvement? Or would it not really be an upgrade, if I’m already using a perfectly good Mustang bridge?
I’m not turned off by the price or the wait, just the uncertainty of what I mentioned above.

BoringPostcards wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:22 am

I’ve been on the fence about ordering one. I’ve always fixed my offset problems with Mustang bridges.
Is the Staytrem really that good of an improvement? Or would it not really be an upgrade, if I’m already using a perfectly good Mustang bridge?
I’m not turned off by the price or the wait, just the uncertainty of what I mentioned above.

Good question. IMHO, it’s an excellent piece, but the purpose is to prevent the bridge from lowering itself, because of vibration, and yes, it’s good for that purpose. My Squier CV ‘70s Jag’ has the OEM bridge, and in the year I’ve owned it, there have been zero problems, but when I built my Warmoth Jaguar, I went StayTrem.

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Synchro wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:34 am

BoringPostcards wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:22 am

I’ve been on the fence about ordering one. I’ve always fixed my offset problems with Mustang bridges.
Is the Staytrem really that good of an improvement? Or would it not really be an upgrade, if I’m already using a perfectly good Mustang bridge?
I’m not turned off by the price or the wait, just the uncertainty of what I mentioned above.

Good question. IMHO, it’s an excellent piece, but the purpose is to prevent the bridge from lowering itself, because of vibration, and yes, it’s good for that purpose. My Squier CV ‘70s Jag’ has the OEM bridge, and in the year I’ve owned it, there have been zero problems, but when I built my Warmoth Jaguar, I went StayTrem.

As far as the bridge goes I find that there's a very subtle tonal difference but it's realistically more mechanical improvements. The intonation screws are offset from the centers of the saddles so you can make adjustments without moving the strings. Those screws are also parallel to the plate rather than at an angle so they don't rise up as you tighten them and the E saddles on the revised version have them locked through the other side of the plate so the saddles don't shift side-to-side. The bushing on the bottom of the height post is certainly better than blue threadlocker (which does work excellently).

On the couple guitars where I replaced the CV bridge with the Staytrem I find the biggest thing is that it just works and I don't have to think about it. Sometimes I had to think about the CV bridge.

GilmourD wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:42 am

Synchro wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:34 am

BoringPostcards wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:22 am

I’ve been on the fence about ordering one. I’ve always fixed my offset problems with Mustang bridges.
Is the Staytrem really that good of an improvement? Or would it not really be an upgrade, if I’m already using a perfectly good Mustang bridge?
I’m not turned off by the price or the wait, just the uncertainty of what I mentioned above.

Good question. IMHO, it’s an excellent piece, but the purpose is to prevent the bridge from lowering itself, because of vibration, and yes, it’s good for that purpose. My Squier CV ‘70s Jag’ has the OEM bridge, and in the year I’ve owned it, there have been zero problems, but when I built my Warmoth Jaguar, I went StayTrem.

As far as the bridge goes I find that there's a very subtle tonal difference but it's realistically more mechanical improvements. The intonation screws are offset from the centers of the saddles so you can make adjustments without moving the strings. Those screws are also parallel to the plate rather than at an angle so they don't rise up as you tighten them and the E saddles on the revised version have them locked through the other side of the plate so the saddles don't shift side-to-side. The bushing on the bottom of the height post is certainly better than blue threadlocker (which does work excellently).

On the couple guitars where I replaced the CV bridge with the Staytrem I find the biggest thing is that it just works and I don't have to think about it. Sometimes I had to think about the CV bridge.

I would agree. I would describe the CV bridge as pretty good, but the StayTrem bridge is excellent. I just ordered another one, along with a spare StayTrem arm, as I was writing this very post. I like the bushing idea, myself. I used to work on aircraft, and there were NyLoc fasteners used in some places, basically NyLoc nuts, and even some NyLoc bolts use a strip of nylon to secure the fastener. It’s like blue LocTite, without actually having to use LocTite, and you can reuse these fasteners several times before they give out. I have a bunch of them, myself, just in case I should ever need to fasten something, or if a broken 727 ever lands on my street and needs a hand getting back to an airworthy state.

StayTrem’s bridge is similar to NyLoc, but not identical, and I see it as an excellent solution. In the case of my CV Squire, I think mine was blessed the day it left the factory. I’ve owned some nice guitars in my day, with price tags to match, but I’ve never owned a guitar that was any better constructed, finished, or that played or sounded better than this little Squier. I plucked it off the wall at the local GC, during their President’s Day Sale, and was quite impressed. I just walked it up to the counter and bought it on the spot.

I'd never heard of a circlip before just now. So presumably if you have a decent Mustang bridge and just want to extend the intonation range by removing the spring, you could remove the spring and add a circlip yourself? If so, anybody know what size it would need?

BoringPostcards wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:22 am

I’ve been on the fence about ordering one. I’ve always fixed my offset problems with Mustang bridges.
Is the Staytrem really that good of an improvement? Or would it not really be an upgrade, if I’m already using a perfectly good Mustang bridge?
I’m not turned off by the price or the wait, just the uncertainty of what I mentioned above.

It’s basically a more rugged, tight, heavier Mustang bridge. If what you have is working I see no need to replace it but if you need one for another guitar I’d certainly recommend it. I haven’t used all the options out there - just the stock offset bridge/Mustang/the various modded goofy ones fender and Squier have done/Staytrem and mastery and Staytrem is my favorite. So many less moving parts than a mastery, and sometimes can fit a bridge cover, which is cool.