Johnny Marr Sig Jaguar

[GilmourD]

It is the new 52mm one. Those became standard starting with the LPB run in 2018.

Do you think there's something defective about your bridge or just inherent to the design?

[sunburster]

I don't think it's defective. It works as a bridge should, I just don't like the sound.

I've read a lot of people complain about these sounding dull, attributing it to the pickups (and, often, swapping them out). Try changing the bridge first!

[GilmourD]

I don't think it's defective. It works as a bridge should, I just don't like the sound.

I've read a lot of people complain about these sounding dull, attributing it to the pickups (and, often, swapping them out). Try changing the bridge first!

So odd... I would love to see/hear an A/B comparison between the Marrguar bridge and the Staytrem on the same guitar.

[GreenKnee]

Yeah that's odd because the Marr bridge was originally a Staytrem. Same design with the Mustang style saddles, nylon bushes to prevent bridge dropping etc.

Personally, I've found a Staytrem to sound more traditional and like the stock, threaded saddle bridges. Mellow, if you will, less bite and attack. A Mastery is much more like a Tele bridge - the attack and bite is all there, full frontal and for me personally is a lot more alive.

Surprising that reverting to a vintage bridge brought the guitar to life for you, but that's great news for you that you're enjoying the guitar much more since making the swap.

[GilmourD]

Yeah that's odd because the Marr bridge was originally a Staytrem. Same design with the Mustang style saddles, nylon bushes to prevent bridge dropping etc.

Personally, I've found a Staytrem to sound more traditional and like the stock, threaded saddle bridges. Mellow, if you will, less bite and attack. A Mastery is much more like a Tele bridge - the attack and bite is all there, full frontal and for me personally is a lot more alive.

Surprising that reverting to a vintage bridge brought the guitar to life for you, but that's great news for you that you're enjoying the guitar much more since making the swap.

I've often associated a softer sound like that to something not firmly connected or impeding vibration... Or a metal somewhere that's softer.

Went I put the Gen1 Staytrem on my Enterprise Jazzmaster it didn't seem to have a completely different tone but... More nuance, maybe? Like different emphasises at different frequencies but the same general ballpark.

[GreenKnee]

Yes, definitely. In my experience, the Staytrem keeps all the good sounds from the vintage style bridge but just adds a bit of life and excitement. It's the closest you'll get to the stock sound whilst also having that reliability and stability that the Staytrem brings.
I am surprised that going from the Marr bridge to the original style brought the guitar to life, but I'm pleased it worked.

[GilmourD]

Yes, definitely. In my experience, the Staytrem keeps all the good sounds from the vintage style bridge but just adds a bit of life and excitement. It's the closest you'll get to the stock sound whilst also having that reliability and stability that the Staytrem brings.
I am surprised that going from the Marr bridge to the original style brought the guitar to life, but I'm pleased it worked.

Yeah... That's why I'm wondering what's up with the bridge now... I REALLY want to science this out... I have a 7.25" radius Jaguar neck but it's stuck on a mustang body that is nowhere close to being ready for electronics and whatnot and my only other Jaguar body is completely unfinished waiting for paint... Yet another reason I need to get that stupid cheap Jag body I have a wanted post for.

[sunburster]

Yeah that's odd because the Marr bridge was originally a Staytrem. Same design with the Mustang style saddles, nylon bushes to prevent bridge dropping etc.

The bridge that comes on these is not a Staytrem, it is just a Mustang bridge with nylon bushings on the posts. Staytrem saddles are made of different material, there are no intonation springs, and their intonation screws are off-center. I've tried a Staytrem before and although I still prefer the traditional bridge, it at least sounded better than a Mustang bridge.

Another problem the Marrstang bridge has is it doesn't rock back and forth. I found my tuning went out quickly if I used the tremolo a bit, due to this (due to the strings "sticking" as they move back and forth on the bridge saddles, I guess?). After putting in the traditional rocking bridge, it stays in tune much better with tremolo use.

[GilmourD]

Another problem the Marrstang bridge has is it doesn't rock back and forth.

[Meriphew]

I've got a Mastery bridge on my KO Marr and the stock 52mm bridge one my LPB Marr. The LPB Marr plays sounds great - I found no reason to swap the bridge. My KO came with the 55mm bridge, which caused the low E to slip off the fretboard.

I almost think that Fender should have offered the new 52mm bridge as a free replacement to those who had guitars with the 55mm bridge.

[Bradley-Jazz]

I almost think that Fender should have offered the new 52mm bridge as a free replacement to those who had guitars with the 55mm bridge.

Yes - it seems baffling that a 55 was ever considered, never mind installed. I put a Staytrem on my KO. I don’t recall the original bridge sounding awful, but the strings coming off the edge of the board was enough of a problem so that it wasn’t on there for very long at all.

[GilmourD]

Another problem the Marrstang bridge has is it doesn't rock back and forth.

This hasnt been addressed regarding the Marr bridge not rocking.

[Futuron]

Sleeves hold it in place. Like the American Professional.

[GilmourD]

Sleeves hold it in place. Like the American Professional.

Didn't realize they shipped with those nylon sleeves from the factory. But those are removable and the bridge will rock, unless I've lost my mind, right?

[Bradley-Jazz]

Sleeves hold it in place. Like the American Professional.

Didn't realize they shipped with those nylon sleeves from the factory. But those are removable and the bridge will rock, unless I've lost my mind, right?

On mine, the sleeves just stopped the height adjustment screws from dropping, like a Staytrem. They didn’t stop it rocking. The whole original Marr bridge was basically a less well executed Staytrem with the wrong string spacing, as far as I’m aware.