Fender Player II Series

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by smjenkins » Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:38 pm

JasonTMays wrote:
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It's not routed. There are demos everywhere now. Jason Mays has one for the Jazzmaster. Sounded good to me.

And like that, here I am. to confirm this. and drop my video below. lol.

https://youtu.be/YB1JHp3oC08?si=W2z3nPwTFDju9Wj6
Loved the video and the playing. Thank for making this!

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by smjenkins » Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:42 pm

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Can we talk about how weird Jags look without the metal control and rhythm plates?

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by forestgreen » Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:08 pm

Yeah are the Squier Contemporary Jags still a thing? Surely they could've just used the switch plates from them.

I kinda wish they'd lean into the offset player line having like a faux 70's aesthetic. Huge headstocks/70s decals with bullet truss rods would make them so much cooler and they're part the way there with the black pickguards on the sunbursts.

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by Futuron » Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:25 pm

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Apparently the strat and tele models get mahogany or ash bodies and they’re chambered, tho the guy in the video made it sound like it was an upgradable option you can request? Idk seems a little odd lol
In addition to the other stuff shown here there is also a chambered ash SSS Strat, HSS Strat and SS Tele in natural-ish finishes, and chambered mahogany SSS Strat, HSS Strat and SS Tele in natural-ish finishes. They are separate models from all the other stuff that all have opaque colour finishes, alder, and no chambering. It's not an "upgradable option" but a separate model(s).

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by timtam » Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:43 pm

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Has Fender ever put rolled edges on a MIM (offset) model before ? That's a nice touch (as long as they don't over-do it on a regular-width neck in such a way that the E's then fall off ... we've been through E's falling off before).
The Player Plus Meteora - although it has a Strat bridge, so probably not what you meant.
I see that Lee Anderton rated the extent of the rolled edges on the strats and teles they demo-ed as only a 3-4 on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being sharp and 10 being fully semi-circle rolled). And the closeups don't look very rolled at all - you can still see the edge. So it's more like a little 'played in' feel than really rolled.
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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by vistavision » Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:55 pm

smjenkins wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:42 pm
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Can we talk about how weird Jags look without the metal control and rhythm plates?
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Nothing new since Fender's been doing control plate-less Jaguar variants for 13 years.

With this being the entry MIM line Fender always hobbles the specs to A: cut costs, and B: get folks to move up the product line to obtain the more "authentic" version. I mean, this is the company that shipped the original MIM Standard Series with ceramic bar magnet pickups for twenty-seven years!

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I'm sure some Fender dealer in '64 looked at the new Duo-Sonic II and thought, "That's not a Duo-Sonic. That's a Mustang".

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by alexpigment » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:20 am

smjenkins wrote:
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Can we talk about how weird Jags look without the metal control and rhythm plates?
In all honesty, with the colors shown (blue, yellow, red), it doesn't look as weird as I would have thought. That being said, there are 5 pages to this thread, and it was talked about several times ;) I still think that you could put a purely aesthetic rhythm plate on there with some black underneath the switch/roller cutouts. In my head I see a DIY mod that doesn't require routing the body.

I still say that the spaghetti logo bothers me more than anything else on the Jag.

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by Pacafeliz » Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:16 am

smjenkins wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:42 pm
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Can we talk about how weird Jags look without the metal control and rhythm plates?
Oooh how come i had missed this thread/news?
Anyway, I LOVE all these. Only dislike the spaghetti logo on the Jags and Stangs.

But no more guitars for me this year... :ph34r:
i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by manwithtitties » Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:18 am

some thoughts:
- i generally like these. i've played enough jms and jags to realise that i dont actually like the rhythm circuit, especially live. the strangle switch is cool for recording but i dont use that live either. i like the simplified modern take of them. if these have 1 meg pots and pickups that are somewhat true to the original design, then i'm 100% for these.

- the previous offset/player series mustang is probably also the nicest mustang i've ever played. i've never liked those trems, and a 3-way switch is just easier to deal with. i think these were good decisions (years ago), even if the toronado bridge might've looked nicer design wise.

- its a stretch to call these colors new: birch green is just a yellowed surf green. that blue is just oversaturated daphne blue. that white could just be an interpretation of vintage or oly white. the red is just a red that sucks, and looks like one of the reds that they first used in the player series jags. nothing exciting imo

- sad that there's no maple boards on the jags/jm. those funky combinations you get in the more modern takes on jms are fun and tend to look good!

- black tele has a white pickguard again. why? constant needless changes just to justify a new product cycle?

- why move the trem position on the jag? i'm genuinely curious. the player 1 jag had it in the vintage position.

here's a very lazy photoshop with how i would mod them: a 30 eur pickguard and 2 20 euro plates from eyparts

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wrong thread but same for the affinity jag (although i would be more inclined to put firebird pickups in here or whatever):

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by JasonTMays » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:05 pm

Hey
Thank you to everyone in this group! I really appreciate the support my video has gotten. so, thank you. Also, I got around to taking some pictures of the pickups and a under the pick guard photo. https://www.reddit.com/r/offset/comment ... are_button

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by CROSS_guitars » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:39 pm

The Mustang's still have the crappy control plates! :fp:

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by sunburster » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:07 pm

JasonTMays wrote:
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Hey
Thank you to everyone in this group! I really appreciate the support my video has gotten. so, thank you. Also, I got around to taking some pictures of the pickups and a under the pick guard photo. https://www.reddit.com/r/offset/comment ... are_button

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Very interesting. Looks like a proper wide, flat wind (perhaps a little taller than usual?) in grey bobbins, but with Formvar wire instead of Enamel (as we find in the PV65s). Also different from the PV65s is that it doesn't look like it's wax potted, and the pole pieces are beveled instead of flat.

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by alexpigment » Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:56 pm

Still waiting for someone to measure the DCR of these pickups (even if it's just from the jack). Finding a good Fender pickup is nice, because they're usually cheap if Fender ends up selling them as an aftermarket part, and a lot of people just upgrade pickups to boutiques without hesitation and put the original pickups for sale.

Also, in response to the comment above, I would bet that these are wax potted.

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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by timtam » Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:17 pm

The website blurbs for both the jag and JM pickups are identical ... and suggests both are a bit hotter than PV65-style ...
"A modern tweak of our classic sound, our Player series pickups are designed with more power and more bite, for authentic Fender tone - with a bit of an edge".

Let's hope we get service/parts manuals for the Player II series with the actual specs in reasonable time. The Vintera II series manuals are still not released (the longest we've had to wait in recent history ... so long that it's beginning to look like they may never get released).
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Re: Fender Player II Series

Post by GreenKnee » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:49 pm

timtam wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:17 pm
Every pickup description for these is the same "crystalline highs, musical mids and tight lows that elevate any genre" therefore I wouldn't think too much in to their descriptions

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