Steven Drozd Jazzmaster question
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On page 2 sullen mentions the Jim Shine site but I had to use the internet archive to access it. Link.
Under the heading 'Tuning Keys'
'1965-1975 Fender made “F” Tuners. Earliest F tuner equipped guitars feature Kluson tuner hole piloted necks with factory filled screw pilot holes. There are also a small number of Jazzmasters with factory equipped Grover tuners. These tuners have a square pearloid button and a hand engraved F on the rear cap of the housing. These necks usually have a veneer on the rear hiding the doweled F tuner pilot holes.
I should also mention the rare Grover tuners available in the late 60's. For a period of a couple years starting in 1967, Fender sold Grover tuning keys in the parts line. They also unofficially sold these gears on some guitars. Mainly they are found on Coronado's, but I have seen them on four Jazzmasters, one Jaguar, and two Stratocasters. The factory used a veneer on all of these examples to hide the F tuner screw pilot holes. The veneer work is difficult to spot. I didn't even acknowledge them until I bought a fire damaged Coronado with the veneer peeling off the back. Then each time I saw a guitar with these I inspected for a veneer. Sure enough all the factory original examples had the veneer. '
I struggled to get a close-up of Drozd's headstock but they look near enough to me
Under the heading 'Tuning Keys'
'1965-1975 Fender made “F” Tuners. Earliest F tuner equipped guitars feature Kluson tuner hole piloted necks with factory filled screw pilot holes. There are also a small number of Jazzmasters with factory equipped Grover tuners. These tuners have a square pearloid button and a hand engraved F on the rear cap of the housing. These necks usually have a veneer on the rear hiding the doweled F tuner pilot holes.
I should also mention the rare Grover tuners available in the late 60's. For a period of a couple years starting in 1967, Fender sold Grover tuning keys in the parts line. They also unofficially sold these gears on some guitars. Mainly they are found on Coronado's, but I have seen them on four Jazzmasters, one Jaguar, and two Stratocasters. The factory used a veneer on all of these examples to hide the F tuner screw pilot holes. The veneer work is difficult to spot. I didn't even acknowledge them until I bought a fire damaged Coronado with the veneer peeling off the back. Then each time I saw a guitar with these I inspected for a veneer. Sure enough all the factory original examples had the veneer. '
I struggled to get a close-up of Drozd's headstock but they look near enough to me
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Re: Steven Drozd Jazzmaster question
If interested... I have a set for sale ....
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Re: Steven Drozd Jazzmaster question
Ok i gotta change the knobs, those don't look too good.
Might change the Mastery for a Staytrem, and - sorry - this one needs a buzz stop. It rings too friggin much! Neck is already shimmed quite a bit.
i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.
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Invaluable resource and very interesting information! Thanks for sharing.forestgreen wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:26 amOn page 2 sullen mentions the Jim Shine site but I had to use the internet archive to access it. Link.
Under the heading 'Tuning Keys'
'1965-1975 Fender made “F” Tuners. Earliest F tuner equipped guitars feature Kluson tuner hole piloted necks with factory filled screw pilot holes. There are also a small number of Jazzmasters with factory equipped Grover tuners. These tuners have a square pearloid button and a hand engraved F on the rear cap of the housing. These necks usually have a veneer on the rear hiding the doweled F tuner pilot holes.
I should also mention the rare Grover tuners available in the late 60's. For a period of a couple years starting in 1967, Fender sold Grover tuning keys in the parts line. They also unofficially sold these gears on some guitars. Mainly they are found on Coronado's, but I have seen them on four Jazzmasters, one Jaguar, and two Stratocasters. The factory used a veneer on all of these examples to hide the F tuner screw pilot holes. The veneer work is difficult to spot. I didn't even acknowledge them until I bought a fire damaged Coronado with the veneer peeling off the back. Then each time I saw a guitar with these I inspected for a veneer. Sure enough all the factory original examples had the veneer. '
I struggled to get a close-up of Drozd's headstock but they look near enough to me
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Re: Steven Drozd Jazzmaster question
The real question, the thing on most people's minds as they read through this thread...
What color duct tape?
What color duct tape?
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I've been refining 3D printing schtuff so I'll be able to make the pickup adapter to drop a Strat pickup in there soon.
Have you tried putting something like heatshrink tubing on the ends of the strings by the balls to dampen the vibration between the ball end and the tailpiece?
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Re: Steven Drozd Jazzmaster question
That is really cool. Jazzmaster with a strat pickup would probably sound very much like a strat with a better trem.GilmourD wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:42 amI've been refining 3D printing schtuff so I'll be able to make the pickup adapter to drop a Strat pickup in there soon.
Have you tried putting something like heatshrink tubing on the ends of the strings by the balls to dampen the vibration between the ball end and the tailpiece?
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Well, I was thinking more in terms of Pat's JM striking me as "What if Drozd's JM was more thoughtfully modded and better taken care of?".armensguitars wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:53 amThat is really cool. Jazzmaster with a strat pickup would probably sound very much like a strat with a better trem.GilmourD wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:42 amI've been refining 3D printing schtuff so I'll be able to make the pickup adapter to drop a Strat pickup in there soon.
Have you tried putting something like heatshrink tubing on the ends of the strings by the balls to dampen the vibration between the ball end and the tailpiece?
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Oh I know, just would be an interesting sound as well, especially in the neck position.GilmourD wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:57 pmWell, I was thinking more in terms of Pat's JM striking me as "What if Drozd's JM was more thoughtfully modded and better taken care of?".armensguitars wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:53 amThat is really cool. Jazzmaster with a strat pickup would probably sound very much like a strat with a better trem.GilmourD wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:42 am
I've been refining 3D printing schtuff so I'll be able to make the pickup adapter to drop a Strat pickup in there soon.
Have you tried putting something like heatshrink tubing on the ends of the strings by the balls to dampen the vibration between the ball end and the tailpiece?
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Re: Steven Drozd Jazzmaster question
Options!
I'm printing out a "standard" centered one right now to make sure it comes out right but I'll be in bed before it's done. LOL
I'm printing out a "standard" centered one right now to make sure it comes out right but I'll be in bed before it's done. LOL
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OK... Never made it to bed... 🤪
Here's the cover I test printed (yes, I'm still refining it) next to a Classic Vibe cover sitting on top of a Vintera Modified set, which have covers matching the AVRI covers I put on Daphne.
I need to make the ears slightly larger, throw the filament in the dryer box, and tweak the X-axis jerk settings so the corners are cleaner, but it's close.
Here's the cover I test printed (yes, I'm still refining it) next to a Classic Vibe cover sitting on top of a Vintera Modified set, which have covers matching the AVRI covers I put on Daphne.
I need to make the ears slightly larger, throw the filament in the dryer box, and tweak the X-axis jerk settings so the corners are cleaner, but it's close.
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Re: Steven Drozd Jazzmaster question
I'd definitely put one of my beloved DiMarzio SDS-1s in there instead of a humbucker. Still, normal single size,but deeper.
Btw, I went with top hat knobs, only need to change the silver top as both are labelled volume.
Oh... and a buzz stop, sorry (it was unbearable)
Btw, I went with top hat knobs, only need to change the silver top as both are labelled volume.
Oh... and a buzz stop, sorry (it was unbearable)
i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.