Fender Vintera II Leaked?
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I removed the pickguard on the Mustang and all looked good wiring-wise. Neck pickup output is normal (nice, clear, and loud). Bridge pickup has pretty much half the output of the neck and is kind of out-of-phase on its own. Absolutely unbalanced pickups. Maybe they wired the Mustang wrong in the bridge? I'll have to hunt down a schematic.
In any case, definitely gonna put an order in for some Kinman Punk-Stang pickups.
Anyone else with the Mustang have this issue with the stock bridge pickup?
In any case, definitely gonna put an order in for some Kinman Punk-Stang pickups.
Anyone else with the Mustang have this issue with the stock bridge pickup?
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That’s a bit disappointing. One thing the Vinteras tend to be good with is not needing to swap pickups unless you really must have that extra few percent out of the guitar.Surfysonic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:52 amI removed the pickguard on the Mustang and all looked good wiring-wise. Neck pickup output is normal (nice, clear, and loud). Bridge pickup has pretty much half the output of the neck and is kind of out-of-phase on its own. Absolutely unbalanced pickups. Maybe they wired the Mustang wrong in the bridge? I'll have to hunt down a schematic.
In any case, definitely gonna put an order in for some Kinman Punk-Stang pickups.
Anyone else with the Mustang have this issue with the stock bridge pickup?
I didn’t realise Kinman did a pickup called the Punk-Stang. They sound like they could be interesting!
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Yeah, the stock neck pickup is fantastic. I'm sure the bridge is tonally fine...just the low output doesn't work for me. I'm mean, really low. Like, it has to look up to tie its' shoes low.ainm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:24 amThat’s a bit disappointing. One thing the Vinteras tend to be good with is not needing to swap pickups unless you really must have that extra few percent out of the guitar.Surfysonic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:52 amI removed the pickguard on the Mustang and all looked good wiring-wise. Neck pickup output is normal (nice, clear, and loud). Bridge pickup has pretty much half the output of the neck and is kind of out-of-phase on its own. Absolutely unbalanced pickups. Maybe they wired the Mustang wrong in the bridge? I'll have to hunt down a schematic.
In any case, definitely gonna put an order in for some Kinman Punk-Stang pickups.
Anyone else with the Mustang have this issue with the stock bridge pickup?
I didn’t realise Kinman did a pickup called the Punk-Stang. They sound like they could be interesting!
Kinman has the Punk-Stang and the Grunge-Stang. I love both punk and grunge. Maybe if I end up bored with my Fralin Hum-Cancelling pickups in the future, I'll try some Grunge-Stang pickups in my seafoam green Vintera Mustang.
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I have the mustang and don't notice a volume difference between the 2 pickups. The bridge might be slightly lower but not any noticeable amount and probably has more to do with pickup height needing to be slightly adjusted. Keep in mind, I don't have any technical way to test this other than my "too many concerts" ears, so take that for what you will hahaSurfysonic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:52 amI removed the pickguard on the Mustang and all looked good wiring-wise. Neck pickup output is normal (nice, clear, and loud). Bridge pickup has pretty much half the output of the neck and is kind of out-of-phase on its own. Absolutely unbalanced pickups. Maybe they wired the Mustang wrong in the bridge? I'll have to hunt down a schematic.
In any case, definitely gonna put an order in for some Kinman Punk-Stang pickups.
Anyone else with the Mustang have this issue with the stock bridge pickup?
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Glad to hear yours is alright. I don't think I've ever had a guitar with pickups so out of wack. I raised the bridge pickup as high as I could get away with and still the output is way too low. The neck pickup is set pretty low to begin with, which is suprising given it's loud output.glennleaguesny wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:14 amI have the mustang and don't notice a volume difference between the 2 pickups. The bridge might be slightly lower but not any noticeable amount and probably has more to do with pickup height needing to be slightly adjusted. Keep in mind, I don't have any technical way to test this other than my "too many concerts" ears, so take that for what you will hahaSurfysonic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:52 amI removed the pickguard on the Mustang and all looked good wiring-wise. Neck pickup output is normal (nice, clear, and loud). Bridge pickup has pretty much half the output of the neck and is kind of out-of-phase on its own. Absolutely unbalanced pickups. Maybe they wired the Mustang wrong in the bridge? I'll have to hunt down a schematic.
In any case, definitely gonna put an order in for some Kinman Punk-Stang pickups.
Anyone else with the Mustang have this issue with the stock bridge pickup?
I haven't taken multimeter measurements yet but I'll try to do that when I can.
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Re: Fender Vintera II Leaked?
didn't have time to comb through all these posts but is there anyone here that can verify if the bass vi bridge is specific to this model or if they have recycled an old jm/jag bridge? I can't see clearly on photos but know that swapping out for a wider ranged bridge (like the staytrem) makes this instrument more usable. thanks
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The Bass VI has the correct sized wider bridge on it.
deluxejazzmaster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:56 amdidn't have time to comb through all these posts but is there anyone here that can verify if the bass vi bridge is specific to this model or if they have recycled an old jm/jag bridge? I can't see clearly on photos but know that swapping out for a wider ranged bridge (like the staytrem) makes this instrument more usable. thanks
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So I took the neck off and I'm pretty sure the neck is routed at an angle like other, newer Fender offsets. No shims needed to get a steep string break angle. I've heard people argue for and against this method - you're cranking your pickup and bridge height up by default - but so far I don't have any major issues with it myself.
Another more modern design feature I think I'm seeing is a smaller diameter for the bridge post inserts in the body, limiting the amount of rocking the bridge can do slightly.
Maybe these 'mod cons' have already been reported on, but I don't recall seeing them mentioned yet. I'm curious to hear whether the Jazzmasters and Jaguars (and maybe even Mustangs?) have the same features.
Another more modern design feature I think I'm seeing is a smaller diameter for the bridge post inserts in the body, limiting the amount of rocking the bridge can do slightly.
Maybe these 'mod cons' have already been reported on, but I don't recall seeing them mentioned yet. I'm curious to hear whether the Jazzmasters and Jaguars (and maybe even Mustangs?) have the same features.
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Do you reckon we'll get FSR Candy apple red Mustangs?
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Does anyone have any experience about the neck shapes of the Vintage II series compare to the original series? I'm specially interested with the Jaguar. I ordered the 60s Vintera Ocean Turquise Jaguar online from local shop (I wasn't able to get there to test it out) and it was properly set up: 11s, mustang bridge fitted out of the box and only complaints are rattling vibrato arm and few frets which are bit sharp. Neck was straight, no fret sprout. Action is really low, so it was set up properly. I was impressed.
My only worries are the Vintage Frets feel a bit weird after getting used with narrow tall and vintage tall ones. They feel weird, like I don't almost feel them, just the fretboard. Vintera II has narrow tall, which might be more familiar, but I can't make up my mind about that. Love the 7.25 radius I was after. The other thing is that the neck is really slim at the beginning, but fortunately thickens higher up on the frets. The shorter scale eases the playing with the narrower neck, but after the Vintera 50s Road Worn Telecaster U-Shape (which is the best I've ever tried, Marrguar close second) anything might come short (thin). So I'm intrigued to know if anyone has any experience about the II -series neck profile.
I know MIJ Jaguars come with U -Shape necks, but I'm so bored with sunburst colors and I don't like the block inlays. And 9.5 with vintage frets doesn't intrest me at the moment. There might be more future special colour runs I need to keep an eye on, but still. And MIJ prices are getting bit on the higher side. The Vintera has brilliant build quality, I like the pickups and I think this is the first colour which I love the matching headstock. It's just beautiful and I haven't touched my Jazzmaster that much after I got the Jaguar. Telecaster gets equal amount of love, but I just don't bond with the Jazzmaster anymore. But the thin neck and vintage frets..
My only worries are the Vintage Frets feel a bit weird after getting used with narrow tall and vintage tall ones. They feel weird, like I don't almost feel them, just the fretboard. Vintera II has narrow tall, which might be more familiar, but I can't make up my mind about that. Love the 7.25 radius I was after. The other thing is that the neck is really slim at the beginning, but fortunately thickens higher up on the frets. The shorter scale eases the playing with the narrower neck, but after the Vintera 50s Road Worn Telecaster U-Shape (which is the best I've ever tried, Marrguar close second) anything might come short (thin). So I'm intrigued to know if anyone has any experience about the II -series neck profile.
I know MIJ Jaguars come with U -Shape necks, but I'm so bored with sunburst colors and I don't like the block inlays. And 9.5 with vintage frets doesn't intrest me at the moment. There might be more future special colour runs I need to keep an eye on, but still. And MIJ prices are getting bit on the higher side. The Vintera has brilliant build quality, I like the pickups and I think this is the first colour which I love the matching headstock. It's just beautiful and I haven't touched my Jazzmaster that much after I got the Jaguar. Telecaster gets equal amount of love, but I just don't bond with the Jazzmaster anymore. But the thin neck and vintage frets..
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Vintera II are now up on Canadian store sites and they’re definitely on the pricey side. Jags and Jms and $1700+ and bass vi is basically $2000. Ouch.
I was expecting them to be around that much, but still kind of hoping for the best. Oh well.
If I’m forking over that much money Id rather save a bit more to buy an American made one. But that’s just me.
I was expecting them to be around that much, but still kind of hoping for the best. Oh well.
If I’m forking over that much money Id rather save a bit more to buy an American made one. But that’s just me.
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I hear ya 100%. My problem is the American ones aren’t just a tad more, they’re over a 1000 more, plus there’s the fact that they don’t come in these colours. Also, the only current US Jag is Johnny Marr’s, in which I have zero interest.MKR wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:03 pmVintera II are now up on Canadian store sites and they’re definitely on the pricey side. Jags and Jms and $1700+ and bass vi is basically $2000. Ouch.
I was expecting them to be around that much, but still kind of hoping for the best. Oh well.
If I’m forking over that much money Id rather save a bit more to buy an American made one. But that’s just me.
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that's true for sure.BoringPostcards wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:10 pm
I hear ya 100%. My problem is the American ones aren’t just a tad more, they’re over a 1000 more, plus there’s the fact that they don’t come in these colours. Also, the only current US Jag is Johnny Marr’s, in which I have zero interest.
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expect i would absolutely love a Marr jag.
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Vintera II Jazzmasters have no room for bridge movement in the thimbles. They're locked in tight!
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Yeah, I'd rather have an old MIJ Jag than a Marr one.BoringPostcards wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:10 pmthe only current US Jag is Johnny Marr’s, in which I have zero interest.
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