Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by Gonkulator » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:28 pm

andy_tchp wrote:
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Better than the stuff from Nash I guess?
That isn't exactly that hard to accomplish.

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by Cob » Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:31 pm

tamerofbantha wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:16 pm
the whole black bobbin scam is criminally lame. they sell rebranded lollar pickups. what possible difference could there be + or minus 5 percent on the wind? puh lease

not to mention the headstocks are puke-tastic. for 3 grand you can and should get a real Fender.
Different alnico magnets's and modeled after darker sounding 58 pickups. They certainly sound different from the regular Lollars. Differences are subtle but they're there. Whether that's worth it to the player is in, well, the ears of the beholder.

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by algeriet » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:33 am

Gonna ignore many of the toxic words in the discussion so far and leave my 0.02€:

The standard specs he's laid out for the guitar seems tasteful and very vintage-y. You can tell that Shelby, like the realest ones here, knows what makes a good Jazzmaster.

Iconic Guitars, who builds these in partnership with Black Bobbin (look up the term 'private label') make amazing instruments and are not partsmasters in the slightest. Some have mentioned Nash and Danocaster, which from what I am aware, build guitars out of parts, and while they may be nice (everything I've seen from the latter has been great, the foremost not so much), they are still not in-house built from scratch, which Black Bobbin seems to have been accused of doing earlier in this thread.

To further my reasoning: Cliff Cooper didn't start out building Orange amps, instead he enlisted Mats Mathias from Matamp to build them under the Orange name. Is Orange/Cliff Cooper a phoney because of this? No.

The headstock? Personal taste. I personally dig it a lot. Only thing I'd change is to stop using Mastery and use the Descendant vibrato and Companion bridge instead. #shotsfired

Also how can you deny that this is a sick JM?

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Disclosure:
Never purchased anything from Shelby or am in some sort of relaxed Instagram DM basis with him so this isn't biased whatsoever.

tl;dr
Shelby doesn't put these guitars together from parts.

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by pscates » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:04 am

I think a nice headstock on any Fender that isn't a Telecaster would be that cool-looking one Ron Thorn uses on his California Special guitars. It's basically a Strat headstock, minus the batwing/sharp-point scallop. But this one is just so exaggerated/goofy, paired with such an attractive, clean-line body of the Jazzmaster. IMO. YMMV. FWIW.

I'd dig that crazy headstock on some deliberately funky, kitschy 1960's Japanese/Italian-inspired thing, absolutely. I like funky, crazy headstocks. I simply dislike it on a sedate, classy Jazzmaster, that's all. That's just "personal taste" too. :)

Headstock aside, that is indeed a beautiful, "sick" Jazzmaster. See-through blonde with a gold pickguard is one of my all-time favorite looks on a Jazzmaster. Or any guitar, actually. And that dark fingerboard look so nice, after a year of seeing so much streaky "chocolate milk" Pau Ferro at Fender.com.

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by algeriet » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:05 pm

pscates wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:04 am
I think a nice headstock on any Fender that isn't a Telecaster would be that cool-looking one Ron Thorn uses on his California Special guitars. It's basically a Strat headstock, minus the batwing/sharp-point scallop. But this one is just so exaggerated/goofy, paired with such an attractive, clean-line body of the Jazzmaster. IMO. YMMV. FWIW.

I'd dig that crazy headstock on some deliberately funky, kitschy 1960's Japanese/Italian-inspired thing, absolutely. I like funky, crazy headstocks. I simply dislike it on a sedate, classy Jazzmaster, that's all. That's just "personal taste" too. :)

Headstock aside, that is indeed a beautiful, "sick" Jazzmaster. See-through blonde with a gold pickguard is one of my all-time favorite looks on a Jazzmaster. Or any guitar, actually. And that dark fingerboard look so nice, after a year of seeing so much streaky "chocolate milk" Pau Ferro at Fender.com.
You have a fair point, the headstock is kitschy 60's Japanese/Italian, but still I see the Bigsby design behind it and like it nonetheless.

In the end, I admire crazy designs such as this Specimen one off for the frontman in Franz Ferdinand:

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I mean LOOK at dat headstock!

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by Mechanical Birds » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:22 pm

Yeah that looks awesome and so does the BB one. For me the sharper the points the cooler it looks. I’ll take a CBS headstock over an original Strat shape any day

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by algeriet » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:44 pm

Mechanical Birds wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:22 pm
Yeah that looks awesome and so does the BB one. For me the sharper the points the cooler it looks. I’ll take a CBS headstock over an original Strat shape any day
Big headstock crew, unite!

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by garyptaszek » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:18 am

Can’t we just unify? I’m a partsmaster, you’re a partsmaster, we’re all partsmasters. That chair over there, partsmaster, that ikea wardrobe, partsmaster, your custom shop fender, partsmaster...

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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by johnnysomersett » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:21 am

garyptaszek wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:18 am
Can’t we just unify? I’m a partsmaster, you’re a partsmaster, we’re all partsmasters. That chair over there, partsmaster, that ikea wardrobe, partsmaster, your custom shop fender, partsmaster...
Gary, we've spoke about this before... please don't assume my Fender
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Re: Anyone gotten a Black Bobbin Jazzmaster?

Post by wooderson » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:49 pm

CBS headstocks rule, if I ever build my own partscaster I'm going with a white on white big headstock Strat ala Michael Karoli.

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