Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Bringing your older offset back to life.
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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:25 pm

DrQuasar wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:12 pm
Mamie Minch on guitar restoration: oxidation chemistry

I remembered this video re: rust removal. I don't know if oxalic acid would work but maybe oxidation is oxidation?
Thanks for sharing the video. Oxalic acid did pop up in my search - I'm going to give it a try - though I'm going to wait until after I remove the finish so that the finish doesn't act as a mask for the acid.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:33 pm

jthomas wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:21 pm
The wood in the neck and headstock of the (I think) T60 looks so fragile... papery almost. Do you think that it will hold standard string tension?
I believe it will - I'm going to replace the headstock piece that has worm damage with some wood harvested from a stray Teisco, add some (maple, I think) wood to fill the old truss bar channels, and use a more modern truss rod. The guitar is really ugly now, but most of the damage to the neck is from the glue separating and rust staining. I think once it is glued back together it will look much more trustworthy.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by MattK » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:34 pm

I’ve taken rust stains off wood with oxalic acid, it’s effective. One tip is to wipe it off just before you think it’s done, because it keeps going a little!

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by Ceylon » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:19 am

Is the Stiles by any chance made in Italy? The body shape, fretboard and neck all look very Galanti Grand Prix but with a different hardware loadout.
Science Friction burns my fingers
Electricity still lingers

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:37 am

Ceylon wrote:
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:19 am
Is the Stiles by any chance made in Italy? The body shape, fretboard and neck all look very Galanti Grand Prix but with a different hardware loadout.
Actually, they're made in Florida, USA - but the big fret dots do look quite Italian.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:26 pm

After roughing out the ABS cement patches:

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And after some polishing, the patch is hard to see and appears to be sticking well:

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by MattK » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:58 pm

Superb! as always.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by CorporateDisguise » Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 am

Obligatory, I would just rock it as is post.










I’m really looking forward to seeing what you do with Teisco. That neck is so far gone.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:18 am

CorporateDisguise wrote:
Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 am
Obligatory, I would just rock it as is post.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what you do with Teisco. That neck is so far gone.

I heard that Ry Cooder plays a guitar with a neck that’s separated into three pieces. It’s worth extra $$$$. Three times the tone and sustain.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:19 am

Drafting out a bridge plate for the T-60.

The end is extended a bit to cover the damage from whoever installed the trem as a bridge, and some holes so that I can bend it into shape.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by MattK » Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:53 pm

Laser cutting?

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Post by will » Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:52 pm

MatthewK wrote:
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Laser cutting?
That's the plan! I'm going to see if I can lasercut a Teisco bass bridge too.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by MattK » Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:50 am

Nice! If any measurements from my NB-4 are useful, I have a set of Vernier calipers and I know how to use ‘em.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:59 pm

MatthewK wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:50 am
Nice! If any measurements from my NB-4 are useful, I have a set of Vernier calipers and I know how to use ‘em.
I have an NB-4 over here that I'll be putting the bridge onto - always liked everything about the bass except the bridge (and how it moves all of the strings to one side if I try to adjust the intonation!) I'll post some pictures if it works out.

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Re: Triple Awful Offset Restoration - Teisco, Stiles, Homemade Weirdo

Post by will » Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:47 pm

I picked up a junky Teisco to donate some wood patches to the T-60, and it had the most pre-broken screws I've ever encountered on a guitar

The only screw holding the tailpiece down that wasn't broken was the size of a tuner screw.

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