Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

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Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by will » Sat Mar 02, 2024 5:15 pm

I wanted to try something new with a Jaguar I pieced together, but didn't want to repaint the body since it was originally Inca Silver - it took a lot of work to get the color right!

Looking around for a body to work on, I saw someone selling a Jag neck on eBay, so I asked if he still had the body.

He replied:

"I do but the tremolo rout was filled in with another piece of wood and the body was routed for a Kahler and fitted with a 25 1/2 scale neck.It was also painted yellow.Also,the workmanship of these of these mods was very poor.Chalk that one up to experience."

Sounds right up my alley! I figured great, something I can fix up, and won't feel bad painting whatever color. I offered him about what I paid for the Vox/Jazzmaster body a few years ago, and he came back with a LOWER offer. Hooray!

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Looks like the original trem rout is still hiding under the patch, filled with glue.

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Oh boy! Ferrules to patch, just like a fancy Fender Custom.

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A few days later, it showed up in the mail, and I pulled up the only brass shield that still remained in the body - looks like Candy Apple Red? I messaged the seller, and it was already refinished "natural" when he picked up the guitar in '82 or '83

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I scraped off the screamin' yellow paint, and found some markings that look like old factory refinish markings?

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That's a big 'ol plug

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Looks like he tried a few different pickup setups!

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I chiseled out the plug and found more CAR evidence

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Looks like the neck pocket was made about 1/8" deeper

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I also saw a TB-64 body for a pretty cheap price, so I figured I'd fix it up (like my old avatar picture!)

The paint looked really lumpy in the pics - the poly finish makes for some really shoddy amateur refinishes.

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Stop bar tailpiece? sure.

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It looks like someone half-heartedly tried removing the finish with a bunch of bumps into a spindle sander

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Was the trem filled with a wooden marshmallow?

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Looking better after truing up the faces and edges

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I figured I'd true up the faces and edges and then use a router to make the edge radius consistent again. I'm basing the radius on an early TG-64 that I like a lot that has more carefully-sculpted contours than most I've seen. One of the nice things about fixing a Teisco is that they varied sooooooo much that I can have more leeway in fixing them, and it will still look right.

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Looking a bit more in order after routing the edges

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It had a few different tailpieces over the years. And who needs ground wires anyways?

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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by MattK » Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:38 pm

Exciting stuff! Hope you keep us posted on progress.

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Post by interceptör » Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:25 am

This will be interesting...

Also: would like to see the kahlerized Jaguar in action with a mid-80s hair metal band. Any chance of getting a photo from the seller? Please?

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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by Pacafeliz » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:29 am

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Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:25 am
This will be interesting...

Also: would like to see the kahlerized Jaguar in action with a mid-80s hair metal band. Any chance of getting a photo from the seller? Please?
Yes and YES !!! :w00t:
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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by interceptör » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:00 am

Just tell them to blur all the faces (but not the hairdos!!!) before sending the photos?

It'd also be interesting to hear why they chose to kahlerize a Jaguar; was it the cheapest guitar they could find or did they just like the form factor but not the functionality?

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Post by will » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:39 am

I'm not sure what the reasoning was - it looks like it got the trem blocked off and hardtailed first, then got the wacky off-center Kahler routing. I've already asked the seller a bunch of questions, so I figured I'd wait until I have some "after" pictures to share before I pepper him with requests for more "before" pictures.

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Post by OffYourFace » Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:40 pm

Very cool! did you buy the neck too? link if not?

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Post by will » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:06 pm

OffYourFace wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:40 pm
Very cool! did you buy the neck too? link if not?
This one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256422376436

The neck is stamped 1965, but the undercoat on the Candy Apple Red is silver - I thought they had switched to a gold undercoat by then.

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Post by OffYourFace » Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:29 pm

oh yeah i saw that one. oof. glad you got the body!

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Post by marqueemoon » Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:40 pm

Kinda love the yellow.

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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by PorkyPrimeCut » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:44 pm

This would be incredible if it was a complete TB-64 restoration thread, so much so that I’d completely lose interest in the Jag. ;D

Do you have any further plans or are you just seeing it as a body-only project?
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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by MattK » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:22 am

Is there any difference between the TB64 and TG64 bodies? Bridge placement? Seems like it would be easy to interchange.
I have a stealth project to convert my wrecked NB4 to an almost TG64. Need two bass side “bow tie” tuners if anyone has some.

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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by will » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:41 am

PorkyPrimeCut wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:44 pm
This would be incredible if it was a complete TB-64 restoration thread, so much so that I’d completely lose interest in the Jag. ;D

Do you have any further plans or are you just seeing it as a body-only project?
I picked up the bass version (NB-4) to use for the neck, and I have some of the square polepiece pickups, so I'll be putting it back together. They're actually nice to play. The neck is a lot more chunky/wide than a Bass VI.

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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by will » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:49 am

MattK wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:22 am
Is there any difference between the TB64 and TG64 bodies? Bridge placement? Seems like it would be easy to interchange.
I have a stealth project to convert my wrecked NB4 to an almost TG64. Need two bass side “bow tie” tuners if anyone has some.
I saw your thread - it looks like you have one of the early NB-4 basses. from when they did a nice job on the contours, and used different-colored woods on the neck to make it look like stripes. (they're my favorite Teiscos.)

The outline of the body is the same between the TB-64 /TG-64 / NB-4 / NB-1 / TR-320. ...though there is a lot of slight variation over the years - sometimes the contours are smooth, sometimes it looks like they hand-sanded the edges on their way out the door on a Friday and called it done. Sometimes the neck joint looks slick and Fender-like, other times, the neck pocket is super chunky and surrounds the neck heel on three sides.

The routing is different between guitar, 4-string bass, and 6-string bass. The TB-64 is routed for 3 pickups, a trem, and the handle cutout in the body. The necks are the same between 4 and 6 string basses - the 6-string just has 2 more tuners and no screw holding down the aluminum plate on the headstock.

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Re: Re-tremming some de-tremmed offsets (Fender Jaguar and Teisco TB-64)

Post by will » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:04 pm

I'm hoping to get the Teisco fixed up like this one I repaired ages ago:

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