The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by Gavanti » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:56 pm

Thanks, Mark! So is the Ural arm sitting kind of high in the Yamaha collet? The Ural trem parts certainly look close, though I can see a few differences comparing with examples on frelonvert's site. I've got an old broken SG arm, and I can measure that to see if it matches the diameter of the Ural one.

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by SuperAxe » Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:18 pm

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Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:21 am
Does anyone know if a Ural trem arm will fit the SG2/3 collet, or if a Ural collet will fit the SG2/3 trem? I've always wondered if these trems were separate manufacture or if Ural bought Yamaha overstock.
Hi Gavanti,

I now make an aftermarket version of the SG2-SG3 and SA-50 arms and collets. I have put a couple of videos out on Youtube but haven't advertised it here yet as I haven't completed the 3rd video.

I intend to make them on demand as the guy in Japan seems to have stopped making them.

Cheers
Sean

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by surfin_bird » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:39 am

SuperAxe wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:18 pm
Gavanti wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:21 am
Does anyone know if a Ural trem arm will fit the SG2/3 collet, or if a Ural collet will fit the SG2/3 trem? I've always wondered if these trems were separate manufacture or if Ural bought Yamaha overstock.
Hi Gavanti,

I now make an aftermarket version of the SG2-SG3 and SA-50 arms and collets. I have put a couple of videos out on Youtube but haven't advertised it here yet as I haven't completed the 3rd video.

I intend to make them on demand as the guy in Japan seems to have stopped making them.

Cheers
Sean
Amazing Sean, I already found your video's looks super good.

As you can tell, I could use some of your collets ;D :w00t:

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by Gavanti » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:51 am

SuperAxe wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:18 pm

Hi Gavanti,

I now make an aftermarket version of the SG2-SG3 and SA-50 arms and collets. I have put a couple of videos out on Youtube but haven't advertised it here yet as I haven't completed the 3rd video.

I intend to make them on demand as the guy in Japan seems to have stopped making them.

Cheers
Sean
Thanks, Sean! That's super useful info. If I end up with a guitar that needs one, I'll send you a message.

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by SuperAxe » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:28 pm

surfin_bird wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:39 am
SuperAxe wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:18 pm
Gavanti wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:21 am
Does anyone know if a Ural trem arm will fit the SG2/3 collet, or if a Ural collet will fit the SG2/3 trem? I've always wondered if these trems were separate manufacture or if Ural bought Yamaha overstock.
Hi Gavanti,

I now make an aftermarket version of the SG2-SG3 and SA-50 arms and collets. I have put a couple of videos out on Youtube but haven't advertised it here yet as I haven't completed the 3rd video.

I intend to make them on demand as the guy in Japan seems to have stopped making them.

Cheers
Sean
Amazing Sean, I already found your video's looks super good.

As you can tell, I could use some of your collets ;D :w00t:

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Wow, that is an impressive collection. It looks though that all of them already have the vibrato bars installed, except for the second one from the left. The latter looks more like a Yamaha SA-30 whammy bar assembly. I have made aftermarket bars for those too but need to source more S/S material to make more of them.

At the moment, I have enough material to make multiple SG2/SG3 and SA-50 bars and collets.

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by surfin_bird » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:15 am

SuperAxe wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:28 pm
surfin_bird wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:39 am
SuperAxe wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:18 pm


Hi Gavanti,

I now make an aftermarket version of the SG2-SG3 and SA-50 arms and collets. I have put a couple of videos out on Youtube but haven't advertised it here yet as I haven't completed the 3rd video.

I intend to make them on demand as the guy in Japan seems to have stopped making them.

Cheers
Sean
Amazing Sean, I already found your video's looks super good.

As you can tell, I could use some of your collets ;D :w00t:
Wow, that is an impressive collection. It looks though that all of them already have the vibrato bars installed, except for the second one from the left. The latter looks more like a Yamaha SA-30 whammy bar assembly. I have made aftermarket bars for those too but need to source more S/S material to make more of them.

At the moment, I have enough material to make multiple SG2/SG3 and SA-50 bars and collets.
Unfortunately it's not all what it seems.

Someone flipped the collet on the sg12 and glued it shut.
For the SG-2a I ordered an arm from Japan but it's missing the groove and as I recall the collet is missing a part too so the arm just swings and falls out.

Combined over the red sg2 and an sg3 project I have one working collet and arm without the tip.

Anyways, i'll send you a pm if that's ok.

Truely amazing someone decided to recreate them.

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by SuperAxe » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:26 pm

surfin_bird wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:15 am
SuperAxe wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:28 pm
surfin_bird wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:39 am


Amazing Sean, I already found your video's looks super good.

As you can tell, I could use some of your collets ;D :w00t:
Wow, that is an impressive collection. It looks though that all of them already have the vibrato bars installed, except for the second one from the left. The latter looks more like a Yamaha SA-30 whammy bar assembly. I have made aftermarket bars for those too but need to source more S/S material to make more of them.

At the moment, I have enough material to make multiple SG2/SG3 and SA-50 bars and collets.
Unfortunately it's not all what it seems.

Someone flipped the collet on the sg12 and glued it shut.
For the SG-2a I ordered an arm from Japan but it's missing the groove and as I recall the collet is missing a part too so the arm just swings and falls out.

Combined over the red sg2 and an sg3 project I have one working collet and arm without the tip.

Anyways, i'll send you a pm if that's ok.

Truely amazing someone decided to recreate them.
Okay, got it. Looking forward to see your pm.

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by repoman » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:50 pm

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Here is the SG3 I bought. Pretty cool guitars, it didn't come with a tremolo arm so I made one. The tremolo is really squeeky and kind of tight feeling, the adjustment screw doesn't seem to do anything so I'm gonna have to open that up and see what's going on. I'm also suspecting someone stuck a piezo in there because with the upper bought tone selector switch down, if I strum behind the bridge it's actually louder than the pickups!

Neck isn't super thin either, it's got a mellow V shape which is nice.

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by ludobag1 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:33 am

seems pretty clean ;)

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by SuperAxe » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:33 pm

In the sixties and seventies, Yamaha sold their guitars with a leather Yamaha labeled strap. The strap was dyed a bright red colour and the shoulder pad was bright red on top with gold coloured Yamaha lettering. The back is a really nice cream colour which doesn't show on my photo sadly.

I got this one with the Yamaha SA-30 I bought a decade ago. The guitar almost looks brand new and the strap was never used. Here some photos of it, some with a ruler to show dimensions. (In case you would like to make your own :whistle: )


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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by ludobag1 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:59 am

Thanks Sean
it was a missing part for me ;)

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by repoman » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:11 am

:w00t:

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by SuperAxe » Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:19 pm

YAMAHA SG-2/SG-3 and YAMAHA SA-50 aftermarket WHAMMY BAR & COLLET

As said in an earlier post, I can now make an aftermarket whammy bar and collet for these guitars upon request.

I have made three videos detailing what's involved. Part 1 is generic for both SG2/3 and SA50. Part 2 is detailing assembly of SG2/3 whammy bar. Part 3 is for the SA-50 but the latter needs final editing before posting it on youtube.

Below are the links (don't know how to embed a Youtube video).

Part 1:
https://youtu.be/tOKvkbnqVS8

Part 2:
https://youtu.be/h_43XD7VjkQ

Part 3:
https://youtu.be/4FKu5yXJ6wc

ps - if you suffer from insomnia, do watch my videos for a guaranteed 'cure' ;)
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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by OffYourFace » Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:07 pm

I've always wondered what was inside those units, thank you!

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Re: The Unofficial OSG 60s Yamaha SG Thread

Post by SuperAxe » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:28 pm

OffYourFace wrote:
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I've always wondered what was inside those units, thank you!
You are welcome. Part 3 video just uploaded. This is about the installation of my aftermarket SA-50 whammy bar & collet: https://youtu.be/4FKu5yXJ6wc

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