Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

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Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by Drooler » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:35 am

I'm currently in the process of restoring this beautiful, 90% original Fender VI for a musical colleague:
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It was in a crappy old gigbag in an attic for over 20 years and he asked me to get it playable again and it's almost back into working condition. I've had the neck pickup rewound because it wasn't working, restrung it (the neck held just fine) and replaced some of the foam under the pickups because they couldn't move anymore. I've also cleaned the mute of its old, completely dried old foam and am planning to replace that as well.

There are two issues still to be solved:
-The ground wire from the neck pickup will not stick to the ground plate under the switch plate. I'm going to have to ask a specialist to solder that: somehow either my soldering iron doesn't get hot enough (really? at 450 degrees centigrade?) or I have to sand the ground plate a little bit and use solder flux.

-The original bridge is gone. I have considered getting a Staytrem for it, but that doesn't fit with the original mute, I've checked that with the guys at Staytrem. A Mastery bridge is also cool but doesn't look good on this vintage instrument ánd I'm doubting if that will fit with the mute. There is a cheap AllParts Mustang bridge currently on it which kind of does the trick but is also the wrong radius (9.5 vs 7.25).

So my biggest question is: where to get a proper bridge? All the modern versions of the VI have a different radius...

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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by N0_Camping4U » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:41 am

Crazy that there is that much of a difference in the neck date and body date. A Staytrem will fit a mute, by the way. Isn't the radius for Bass VI 7.25 or were the old ones 9.5? Both of these sizes exist for Staytrem.

I'm going to get crap for this, but the Mastery is too.... 'perfect' and I think changes the tone of whatever it's on. Regardless, a Mastery will not fit a mute period.
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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by Drooler » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:44 am

The old VI's have a 7.25 radius, the reissues are 9.5. I've been in touch with Staytrem and according to them their VI bridge is only available with 9.5" and do not fit with a mute.

The difference does not strike me as particularly odd, by the way. My 1966 Jazz also has a neck and pots that are 5 months apart :)

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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by GreenKnee » Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:55 am

N0_Camping4U wrote:
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Mastery will not fit a mute period.
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They can fit and work. It does take some filing of the mut though and so would not be recommended for a vintage instrument.


I'm certain Staytrem used to make a 7.25" Bass VI bridge. I wonder why they stopped?
I think you'll just have to keep an eye on reverb, eBay etc. for a bridge. I think the Japanese reissues had a 7.25" radius and correct bridge so maybe one of those will become available.

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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by N0_Camping4U » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:59 am

GreenKnee wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:55 am
N0_Camping4U wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:41 am
Mastery will not fit a mute period.
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They can fit and work. It does take some filing of the mut though and so would not be recommended for a vintage instrument.


I'm certain Staytrem used to make a 7.25" Bass VI bridge. I wonder why they stopped?
I think you'll just have to keep an eye on reverb, eBay etc. for a bridge. I think the Japanese reissues had a 7.25" radius and correct bridge so maybe one of those will become available.
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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by JVG » Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:33 am

GreenKnee wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:55 am
I'm certain Staytrem used to make a 7.25" Bass VI bridge. I wonder why they stopped?
I think you'll just have to keep an eye on reverb, eBay etc. for a bridge. I think the Japanese reissues had a 7.25" radius and correct bridge so maybe one of those will become available.
Yep, agree that Staytrem definitely did make them. I know because i have one. :)

The 9.5” radius will be fine unless you’re really insistent on matching the radius.

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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by bulrich » Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:47 pm

If you have the specs, you might have best luck having one fabricated yourself. I know a few forum members did this BITD, long before Staytrem.

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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by MattK » Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:41 pm

The bridges for the Japanese reissues come up occasionally: https://reverb.com/au/item/5866612-fend ... -25-radius
(note that this one has sold, before you get your hopes up)
I have a 2012 MIJ reissue if you would like me to measure anything.

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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by andy_tchp » Sun Apr 02, 2023 5:55 pm

Drooler wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:35 am
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Wow, that route! :o

Is that some weird trick of the light/photo or is it actually that mis-shapen?
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Re: Restoring a 1963 Bass VI - looking for a bridge

Post by Drooler » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:05 am

JVG wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:33 am
GreenKnee wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:55 am
I'm certain Staytrem used to make a 7.25" Bass VI bridge. I wonder why they stopped?
I think you'll just have to keep an eye on reverb, eBay etc. for a bridge. I think the Japanese reissues had a 7.25" radius and correct bridge so maybe one of those will become available.
Yep, agree that Staytrem definitely did make them. I know because i have one. :)

The 9.5” radius will be fine unless you’re really insistent on matching the radius.
Well not me specifically but the owner is planning on selling it, eventually and I can imagine a next owner would prefer the correct radiused bridge :)

Oh and about the routing: that's mostly lighting (but it's not the tightest bridge routing I've ever seen either).

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