Jazzmaster and Jag pre cbs evolution till mid 60 ś

[Sonichris]

I disagree. Sound's nothing like a Jaguar (and I have owned about 15 jaguars over the years).

Yeah, I've been playing Jaguars primarily for the last 20 years and I hear absolutely no Jaguar in that tone.

And are you sure you hear only strat? I am not at all, hand on heart, this is not a pure strat sound.

What part of this is Jaguar? 24" scale? (no) Jaguar pickups? (no) Jaguar bridge and tailpiece? (no) Jaguar body? (no, its a jazzmaster shape) It sort of looks like a Jaguar, if you forget that a Jazzmaster is very similar. Everything except the shape is stratocaster, and it sounds exactly like a strat.

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[JSett]

Yeah, I've been playing Jaguars primarily for the last 20 years and I hear absolutely no Jaguar in that tone.

And are you sure you hear only strat? I am not at all, hand on heart, this is not a pure strat sound.

What part of this is Jaguar? 24" scale? (no) Jaguar pickups? (no) Jaguar bridge and tailpiece? (no) Jaguar body? (no, its a jazzmaster shape) It sort of looks like a Jaguar, if you forget that a Jazzmaster is very similar. Everything except the shape is stratocaster, and it sounds exactly like a strat.

I've enjoyed this thread so very much! Thank you all!

Didn't you hear? The sound of a guitar is totally down to the physical shape of the body. Durrr

[garyptaszek]

I'm waiting for someone to tell me a telemaster sounds like a jazzmaster...
Also, I'd guess if anything was responsible for a "not so typical" Strat sound it's the rosewood neck?

[JSett]

I'm waiting for someone to tell me a telemaster sounds like a jazzmaster...
Also, I'd guess if anything was responsible for a "not so typical" Strat sound it's the rosewood neck?

And the fact it has overwound 'Texas Special' pickups warming it up a touch. Still sounds like a Strat (ie: like crap in the bridge position)

[Guitarman555]

Somebody wrote this. Btw does anybody knows where comes the quick decay of Jag from? Is it from the bridge or which part?

It doesn't have the quick attack and rapid decay of a Jaguar, nor the BTB sympathetic resonance, which are really the only things inherent to a Jaguar (the rest can be changed via pickup swaps).

[andy_tchp]

Bridge, vibrato and scale length.

[sal paradise]

Bridge, vibrato and scale length.

Erm, and body shape. And tone wood. Locking tuners & straplocks, too.

[Embenny]

Short scales increase the proportion of fundamental to harmonics in a note, which we interpret as a more "pure" or warmer tone, as well as decreasing sustain. The floating bridge and relaticely low break angle shorten sustain and the BTB strings add in harmonic content (albeit different ones than those lost via the short scale).
You'd probably never be able to pick out a guitar that had just one of the Jaguar's features, but all of them do add up to something distinct and unique sounding guitar compared to its popular contemporaries.

[RBJM]

Pickups seem to be the biggest factor. We have several vintage JM and Jags, but the one that sounds the best (IMHO) is a 2019 JM we have from the Custom Shop.

[Guitarman555]

What pickups has this custom shop jazzy?

[JSett]

Pickups seem to be the biggest factor. We have several vintage JM and Jags, but the one that sounds the best (IMHO) is a 2019 JM we have from the Custom Shop.

What shop do you work at/own/etc?

[RBJM]

I'm referring to a 2019 Jazzmaster built by the Fender Custom Shop. I'm not sure what pickups were installed, but I can say they sound better than our vintage Fender offsets.

[Hugo281]

everything is important in the sound of a guitar and whoever thinks that the microphone is the only element responsible for the sound is wrong. besides, a bad dark and not very resonant guitar you put the microphones you want on it and nothing works. a handle without rosewood slab is more slamming and has less roundness and softness. it is enough to test 10 strat with different handles in a store for the observation
sorry for my English

[Embenny]

sorry for my English

Pas de problème mon ami. J'ai réalisé que vous étiez français presque immédiatement.

En anglais, nous les appelons généralement "pickups" au lieu de "micros". Et "manche" peut signifier "handle" en anglais, mais on l'appelle le "neck" (cou).

De même, je suis désolé pour mon français. Avant, j'étais parfaitement bilingue, mais je deviens rouillé! J'ai tapé cela beaucoup plus lentement que je ne le pensais quand j'ai commencé.

For my fellow anglo OSGers, I was just commenting that I could tell Hugo was French as soon as I saw "microphones." Pickups are called "micros" in French, and the neck is called the "manche," which has a few other meanings in English, including "handle" (the term Hugo used).

I just got a kick out of it, because the bilingual part of my brain instantly saw the French-to-English translation happening in that post!

I also apologized for my French, because typing that was way harder than I thought it would be. I'm getting rusty.

[Veitchy]

everything is important in the sound of a guitar and whoever thinks that the microphone is the only element responsible for the sound is wrong. besides, a bad dark and not very resonant guitar you put the microphones you want on it and nothing works. a handle without rosewood slab is more slamming and has less roundness and softness. it is enough to test 10 strat with different handles in a store for the observation
sorry for my English

I've no doubt that if you test 10 different Strats in a shop they'll sound different. However, as that sample size increases I'd put good money on what woods they're made out of becoming a decreasingly significant factor, at least in terms of anything consistent.