1968 Electric XII value?

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1968 Electric XII value?

Post by JSett » Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:19 pm

Just wondering, as I don't know the market all that well, would 3.5k be a good price for a '68/'69 Electric XII in sunburst?

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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by Ceylon » Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:44 pm

I think in the current market that's a pretty sweet deal. Condition looks nice and I wouldn't be surprised to see one of these listed at 5k or more.
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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by DaddyDom » Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:49 pm

Definitely at the affordable end for these but how are they describing it? "Player-grade"?

If I can see correctly from here, that logo looks like a retro-fitted pre-CBS style.

Also, it's got Klusons (or lookalikes) which is fine as a retro-fit but they were only used very early on for XIIs.

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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by smjenkins » Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:04 pm

I'm also surprised that a '68 still has dots and no binding on the neck. I've seen '66's with blocks and binding so I'm surprised that a dots only neck made it all the way to '68.

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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by JSett » Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:21 pm

Yeah, the lack of binding is odd. The description is very minimal too so maybe the seller isn't really sure. I've asked for clearer (and closer) photos of the headstock and serial # before I go much further.
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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by marqueemoon » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:01 pm

How are they dating it?

I would expect to see blocks/binding/F tuners on a later one.

Are you sure you’re a 12 string person?

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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by JSett » Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:04 pm

marqueemoon wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:01 pm
How are they dating it?
I assume neck plate, but I've asked
marqueemoon wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:01 pm
Are you sure you’re a 12 string person?
I have no idea. I thought this could be a way to find out. I mostly play jangly chord stuff these days so thought it could be a fun texture to try out.
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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by AwesomeWelles » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:01 am

Looks more like a '66 to me. Oddly, I've seen lots of '66 Fenders where the decal had flaked off, so that's maybe what happened here, too

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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by PorkyPrimeCut » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:38 am

Are you talking dollars or pounds? Pretty important difference, no? ;)
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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by Britfingersisback » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:54 am

I think it's a fair price for it, in any case you won't loose money on it should you decide to sell in the future. Is it a trusted seller? If it is I'd be tempted.

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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by JSett » Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:01 am

PorkyPrimeCut wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:38 am
Are you talking dollars or pounds? Pretty important difference, no? ;)
Have you seen the exchange rate these days? There's not a great deal in it anymore...not like those glory days of 2/1 :D
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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by JSett » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:00 am

Well, that answers that....
hi there
No we have had to take it down to rewrite the whole thing and re evaluate it
It seems it was confused with another guitars details it not late 68/69 as stated its actually earlier
its a 1965
the pot codes confirm it 702125 0240 1 meg aud 604 65 30
the neck confirms it has date code 12nov65B
The serial also confirms it a wrong serial was entered on the system
the switch is original
the pickups are original
The nut is untouched or changed so looks to be 100% original and not altered
11 of the machine heads are 100% original 64 to 67 klusons one looks to be a later replacement we are looking through our stash to see if we have a genuine 64 replacement at the moment.
This example is actually a very early one in the run not later.
it is actually one of the pre transitional kluson versions and always has been since leaving the factory no alterations on the head from fender/cbs F to klusons only ever klusons
if fender had fitted it with F's it would have holes or clear dowelling to the hole before fitting them, the F's are also screwed at corner angles on each machine head and klusons are inline
The decal however is not original it looks to be a later replacement and its missing the electric XII below the fender and there are clear signs of laquer removal in the shape of the original so we will be noting that on the page when relisting it.
we will also be documenting everything on the listing as well with pictures
regards
I look forward to it being relisted at a higher price in 3, 2, 1...
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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by PorkyPrimeCut » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:13 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:01 am
PorkyPrimeCut wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:38 am
Are you talking dollars or pounds? Pretty important difference, no? ;)
Have you seen the exchange rate these days? There's not a great deal in it anymore...not like those glory days of 2/1 :D
Oh wow, I hadn't realised it had got so close!
Still, it could be worse (Euros!!)
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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by simonhpieman » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:32 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:00 am
Well, that answers that....
hi there
No we have had to take it down to rewrite the whole thing and re evaluate it
It seems it was confused with another guitars details it not late 68/69 as stated its actually earlier
its a 1965
the pot codes confirm it 702125 0240 1 meg aud 604 65 30
the neck confirms it has date code 12nov65B
The serial also confirms it a wrong serial was entered on the system
the switch is original
the pickups are original
The nut is untouched or changed so looks to be 100% original and not altered
11 of the machine heads are 100% original 64 to 67 klusons one looks to be a later replacement we are looking through our stash to see if we have a genuine 64 replacement at the moment.
This example is actually a very early one in the run not later.
it is actually one of the pre transitional kluson versions and always has been since leaving the factory no alterations on the head from fender/cbs F to klusons only ever klusons
if fender had fitted it with F's it would have holes or clear dowelling to the hole before fitting them, the F's are also screwed at corner angles on each machine head and klusons are inline
The decal however is not original it looks to be a later replacement and its missing the electric XII below the fender and there are clear signs of laquer removal in the shape of the original so we will be noting that on the page when relisting it.
we will also be documenting everything on the listing as well with pictures
regards
I look forward to it being relisted at a higher price in 3, 2, 1...
The name of that seller doesn't happen to involve a recently appointed monarch and pathway down which you'd drive a car, does it?...

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Re: 1968 Electric XII value?

Post by JSett » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:48 am

simonhpieman wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:32 am
The name of that seller doesn't happen to involve a recently appointed monarch and pathway down which you'd drive a car, does it?...
Is doesn't, actually. Norman's Old Hat Vintage.

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