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NGD: 1969 Mosrite (Firstman)

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 6:31 am
by JSett
I was up in London for the weekend for a birthday outing and made the fatal flaw of dropping by Denmark Street. Ended up walking away with this 197-something Mosrite *EDIT: after a bit more research (read: a lot) it seems this is a '69* Plays great, neck isn't actually as thin as I've read they can be sometimes and the frets are, predictably, flat as hell.

I've wanted one of these for the longest time but just never got around to playing and getting one. So the planets aligned and it came home. From what I can glean off the internet theres no real way of dating these from the serial number but happy to be pointed in the right direction if someone knows.

Being one of the earlier Firstman-built ones apparently makes it one of the more sought-after Japanese versions. I don't really care about that as it plays and sounds fantastic regardless. And it wasn't £4-6k hahaha

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Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 6:40 am
by PorkyPrimeCut
Oh man, that's a killer guitar!!

Congratu-fucking-lations!!! ;D

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 7:11 am
by LVC
That's absolutely gorgeous... I'm green with envy ! :squint: :D

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 3:28 pm
by Veitchy
Awesome score. Looks to be in great condition. Gotta let us know how it sounds.

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 3:34 pm
by Scout
Very cool! Had one way back, also I thought they were ‘60’s.

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 10:09 pm
by JSett
Scout wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 3:34 pm
Very cool! Had one way back, also I thought they were ‘60’s.

Yeah, the proper Mosrites were. This is one made in the late-60s/early-70s by the Firstman Japanese guitar company who partnered up with the original Mosrite Of California after making illegal copies for a while.

After extensive deep-diving and googling, and asking some people, it appears this is likely a '69 but I'm still trying to confirm that more solidly

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 10:15 pm
by JSett
Veitchy wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 3:28 pm
Awesome score. Looks to be in great condition. Gotta let us know how it sounds.
It sounds great. It has that classic 'overwound' sound the original Moseley ones are known for which is nice and warm. Great for surf (obviously) and sounds fantastic tuned flat and in drop-d through some overdrive/fuzz

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:40 pm
by garyptaszek
johnnysomersett wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 10:15 pm
Veitchy wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 3:28 pm
Awesome score. Looks to be in great condition. Gotta let us know how it sounds.
It sounds great. It has that classic 'overwound' sound the original Moseley ones are known for which is nice and warm. Great for surf (obviously) and sounds fantastic tuned flat and in drop-d through some overdrive/fuzz
I’m well interested in the pickups on these. What output are they?

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:55 pm
by JSett
garyptaszek wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:40 pm
johnnysomersett wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 10:15 pm
Veitchy wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 3:28 pm
Awesome score. Looks to be in great condition. Gotta let us know how it sounds.
It sounds great. It has that classic 'overwound' sound the original Moseley ones are known for which is nice and warm. Great for surf (obviously) and sounds fantastic tuned flat and in drop-d through some overdrive/fuzz
I’m well interested in the pickups on these. What output are they?
A quick and dirty measurement from the output jack shows about 12.6 for both, so pretty hot

Re: NGD: 197* Mosrite

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:08 pm
by Veitchy
johnnysomersett wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:55 pm
garyptaszek wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:40 pm
johnnysomersett wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 10:15 pm


It sounds great. It has that classic 'overwound' sound the original Moseley ones are known for which is nice and warm. Great for surf (obviously) and sounds fantastic tuned flat and in drop-d through some overdrive/fuzz
I’m well interested in the pickups on these. What output are they?
A quick and dirty measurement from the output jack shows about 12.6 for both, so pretty hot
I love the sound of Mosrite pickups - real singular sound. I keep thinking of doing a Mosrite-inspired JM one day - do a German carve around the top and all, just to have an excuse to stick some of those Novak JM-Mosrite pickups in it.

Re: NGD: 1969 Mosrite (Firstman)

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:31 am
by CorporateDisguise
Congrats! I love old Mosrites. They have such a sleek sexy design. I’ve never gotten the chance to play one unfortunately, and the super skinny neck reports always scares me away.

Re: NGD: 1969 Mosrite (Firstman)

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:46 am
by JSett
CorporateDisguise wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:31 am
Congrats! I love old Mosrites. They have such a sleek sexy design. I’ve never gotten the chance to play one unfortunately, and the super skinny neck reports always scares me away.
Maybe I got lucky as this one is about the same thickness as a Japanese Jazzmaster. Feels pretty good

Re: NGD: 1969 Mosrite (Firstman)

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:35 pm
by MattK
I think these Morales ones came out of the same factory? The neck's not skinny but it has this odd laminated structure so it looks like a bowling alley.
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Re: NGD: 1969 Mosrite (Firstman)

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:26 pm
by JSett
MatthewK wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:35 pm
I think these Morales ones came out of the same factory? The neck's not skinny but it has this odd laminated structure so it looks like a bowling alley.
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Not quite. Morales came out of the Zen-on factory (along with Beltone). These Firstman ones were built in the FugiGen Gakki factory (Greco, Ibanez, etc).

Re: NGD: 1969 Mosrite (Firstman)

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:28 pm
by MattK
Amazing that they doubled down on such precisely similar models, perhaps even shared templates!