Is this JM Tort Pickguard Original?
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Is this JM Tort Pickguard Original?
Hey guys -- Do you think this pickguard is original? Seller says 1971 in the listing specs.
https://reverb.com/item/36443953-fender ... ge-nitrate
Looks too clean to me...and the screw holes are deeply beveled, did Fender start doing that in the late 60's or 70? I've only seen screw holes like that on reissues. The holes on the '62, '64 and '65 pickguards that I have are distinctively less beveled.
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https://reverb.com/item/36443953-fender ... ge-nitrate
Looks too clean to me...and the screw holes are deeply beveled, did Fender start doing that in the late 60's or 70? I've only seen screw holes like that on reissues. The holes on the '62, '64 and '65 pickguards that I have are distinctively less beveled.
TIA
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Re: Is this JM Tort Pickguard Original?
The tort pattern itself looks of that era. But as far as the details of everything else I’m unsure. Either way...that isn’t worth what they’re asking. 70s era tort was the worst IMO
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Why do you think '70s tort was the worst? Any thoughts on the screw hole bevels? Have you seen legit 70s pickguards with similar screw hole bevels? (I've never seen one myself -- thus the original post). Thanks for you feedback either way!Unicorn Warrior wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:55 amThe tort pattern itself looks of that era. But as far as the details of everything else I’m unsure. Either way...that isn’t worth what they’re asking. 70s era tort was the worst IMO
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Man, surely this is way over the going rate for CBS-era nitrocellulose guards?
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Agree -- but I feel that many things listed on reverb.com are open to price negotiation...even if not stated.PorkyPrimeCut wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:09 amMan, surely this is way over the going rate for CBS-era nitrocellulose guards?
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Didn’t they switch to plastic guards sometime in mid 60s?
Either way, even if this is genuine, it looks just like WD tort, I’d truly love a genuine vintage tort, but not this one for that price.
Either way, even if this is genuine, it looks just like WD tort, I’d truly love a genuine vintage tort, but not this one for that price.
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70s guards have no flavor or pop. Typically very bland like the demonstration you posted. You might as well get WD for that. I’d take that guard for $150..maybe 200 but not because it looks good, but because I was maybe hypothetically restoring a 70s JM. Other than that I’d leave it alone.sangtlee wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:03 amWhy do you think '70s tort was the worst? Any thoughts on the screw hole bevels? Have you seen legit 70s pickguards with similar screw hole bevels? (I've never seen one myself -- thus the original post). Thanks for you feedback either way!Unicorn Warrior wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:55 amThe tort pattern itself looks of that era. But as far as the details of everything else I’m unsure. Either way...that isn’t worth what they’re asking. 70s era tort was the worst IMO
That’s even if it’s real. Again, I’m not expert there. I think it is. But the pattern is too boring when I know you can get a beautiful earlier tort for cheaper.
Get yourself pre-68 tort guard or go with spitfire of lavaguard. Don’t waste that much money or anything close to it on a bland 70s guard.
Here’s a much better vintage tort, small crack but perhaps you could get it way cheaper than he’s askin. Still a stupid asking price:
https://reverb.com/item/31911537-vintag ... t=31911537
I’d pay no more than $300 for vintage tort and that’s stretching it. But some people have stimmys to blow so why not?
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In the early 90s, 600 bucks got you the whole Jazzmaster!
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Re: Is this JM Tort Pickguard Original?
Looks like “meatball” tort of the late ‘60s/early ‘70s. I think it’s fairly distinct from WD tort, which tends to be more “stringy.” That said, it doesn’t really have any of the aspects of tort that I like, so there’s no way I’d pay anywhere near that, legit or not.
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I think it’s legit. Yet here we are nearing a year later and the listing is still up.
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Looks legit but that price is a fucking joke and I hope the seller accidentally drops it into a volcano
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HA -- yeah, I've contacted the seller several times and made reasonable offers...but no response. Crickets. That was about a year ago...I've moved on and have a nice Spitfire guard in hand now.Mechanical Birds wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:18 amLooks legit but that price is a fucking joke and I hope the seller accidentally drops it into a volcano