What the heck did I just buy - pic dump of 60s Jag

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Re: What the heck did I just buy - pic dump of 60s Jag

Post by simonhpieman » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 am

I was going to say, the pearloid dots on my 65 certainly didn't factor into the sale in any way whatsoever!

Looked a lot like this one, though, so either we both had fakes or they're both legit!

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Re: What the heck did I just buy - pic dump of 60s Jag

Post by Axolotl » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:48 am

The unbound neck of my 65 also has pearloid dots... I never think of them as rare at all, since I have never seen any Fender from 1965 with clay dots.

Besides that, yours is a gorgeous D&B specimen. Happy NGD!

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Re: What the heck did I just buy - pic dump of 60s Jag

Post by graceless » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:47 am

Axolotl wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:48 am
The unbound neck of my 65 also has pearloid dots... I never think of them as rare at all, since I have never seen any Fender from 1965 with clay dots.

Besides that, yours is a gorgeous D&B specimen. Happy NGD!
Thank you! Appreciate it. But please forgive my ignorance - what is D&B?

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Re: What the heck did I just buy - pic dump of 60s Jag

Post by Axolotl » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:25 pm

D&B= Dots and Binding.

Which, I can see now it's not your neck/guitar anyway. Sorry, it's been a confusing morning. :freako:

Lovely unbound guitar.

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Re: What the heck did I just buy - pic dump of 60s Jag

Post by mbene085 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:28 pm

MrFingers wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:22 am
Pearloid dots aren't that rare of Fenders, it what Fender used from the last months of 1964 onwards on their instruments...

However, on the "deluxe models", it is a rare occurence, since around the summer of 1965, they all got a binding around the fretboard, and in 1966 the dots were replaced by block inlays. That means there was only a window of around three quarters of a year where the "pearloid dots + no binding" was used. Factor in the fact that the Jazzmaster & Jaguar weren't absolute bestsellers, and the usage of olde(r) stock (a lot of early 1965 instruments use 1964 parts & specs) , and the window of unbound pearloid dots on those models shrinks to a few months in the spring & summer of 1965.
Yes, this is exactly what I meant. Pearloid dots on an unbound Jaguar are what I meant are rare, not pearloid dots in general.

It was after they ran out of the pre-CBS clay dot stock, but before they added binding. A transitional perloid before the transitional period of D&B.

Always check the model code on an unbound pearloid dot Jaguar neck, because Mustangs, Duo-Sonic IIs, and Musicmaster IIs were produced in far greater numbers for far longer, so some people might try a decal swap to fake a Jaguar neck (or decal swap and fudge the stamp, though that's less common and harder to get right).

This one looks right, though.

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