Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

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Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by geoman » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:40 pm

Has anyone got any experience with the Danoflex type of vibrato?? I think the designs of Nat Daniels are Brilliant to say the least!! I want to make a few of these and need some input. Are they stainless steel for one. How much pitch change etc. Anybody got one of these???

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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by marqueemoon » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:30 pm

Interesting!

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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by Con-Tiki! » Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:38 am

very weird. very little pitch change, methinks.
i assume the bent steel plate is the whole mechanism?
spring steel?
it seems like the mounting screws would take the brunt of the stress.
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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by geoman » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:10 pm

Haven't found any info online. And I have installed a vintage Japanese trem on a Dano. Next phase is a hybrid design like this. But the one piece design just seems so amazing. Gotta Try it out!!

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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by invisible man » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:33 am

No intonation for you!
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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by Pacafeliz » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:16 am

invisible man wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:33 am
No intonation for you!
:wtf: my thoughts too!!!
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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by Mechanical Birds » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:02 am

geoman wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:40 pm
Has anyone got any experience with the Danoflex type of vibrato?? I think the designs of Nat Daniels are Brilliant to say the least!! I want to make a few of these and need some input. Are they stainless steel for one. How much pitch change etc. Anybody got one of these???

https://ibb.co/rwbHT0c
Never tried one but it sure looks to be dogshit

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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by Ceylon » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:38 am

The simplicity of the whole thing is fantastically cool but I can't imagine it's a good vibrato by ANY stretch. It looks like the Vibrola principle of operation but worse, way worse.

Might there be a spring in the body though? The round knob thingie between the E- and A-strings looks like it would be a part of the mechanism.
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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by LVC » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:07 am

Ceylon wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:38 am
Might there be a spring in the body though? The round knob thingie between the E- and A-strings looks like it would be a part of the mechanism.
I don't think so. Considering where the knob thing is located, my first guess would be it just covers a 2nd hole for the trem arm to be able to use it left-handed.
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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by ohm-men » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:04 am

Ceylon wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:38 am
The simplicity of the whole thing is fantastically cool but I can't imagine it's a good vibrato by ANY stretch. It looks like the Vibrola principle of operation but worse, way worse.

Might there be a spring in the body though? The round knob thingie between the E- and A-strings looks like it would be a part of the mechanism.
Indeed, my though exactly.
I don't think there is a spring, as the position would not make sence. A spring would push up the trem and therefore mess up the tuning.
Also given the audience for Danelctro back then was by no means high end. So, it's a very simple design.
From what I can see, it functions like a vibrolo, but much simpler as the actual bridge is part of the design.
The vibrato would only be very subtle, very slight pitch change.

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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by Ceylon » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:13 am

ohm-men wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:04 am
Ceylon wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:38 am
The simplicity of the whole thing is fantastically cool but I can't imagine it's a good vibrato by ANY stretch. It looks like the Vibrola principle of operation but worse, way worse.

Might there be a spring in the body though? The round knob thingie between the E- and A-strings looks like it would be a part of the mechanism.
Indeed, my though exactly.
I don't think there is a spring, as the position would not make sence. A spring would push up the trem and therefore mess up the tuning.
Also given the audience for Danelctro back then was by no means high end. So, it's a very simple design.
From what I can see, it functions like a vibrolo, but much simpler as the actual bridge is part of the design.
The vibrato would only be very subtle, very slight pitch change.
I was thinking more along the lines of a spring inside the body connected to the vibrato via a screw, so that it's pulling down and gets compressed when you push down on the arm, not unlike how the JM vibrato is built. But I agree it seems unlikely they'd have gone through the effort.
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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by geoman » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:11 am

Thought I would revisit this topic. I am still looking to try one of these bridges. Was hoping someone else my have some input. How thick the metal is and if it is stainless steel , or chromed spring steel. Gonna have to make one and try the action...

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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by Mechanical Birds » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:42 am

Just looking at that thing gives me anxiety

I feel like you could do better with literally any other approach. It’s a cheap piece of tin with a couple bend points. I’ve messed with guitars that house this thing and it’s never come across as a serviceable unit and I’d imagine it’s gonna be impossible to make it so

I’d be shocked if it were anything other than cheap typical potmetal

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Re: Danelectro Danoflex vibrato

Post by andy_tchp » Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:01 pm

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