Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:55 am
Yeah that's the one I meant. Refin, hacked body, 0 original electronics. Should be $2500, not $5000.
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Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:28 am
I also think these days a lot of shops list on Reverb at high prices for advertising essentially and will sell for a fair bit less if you contact them and buy off their own website, which isnt entirely surprising given the increase in fees.
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:38 am
I think Reverb’s lack of disincentive for listing something high and then taking an offer has caused everything to creep up as well.
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:25 am
When I list something on Reverb, my goal is to NOT sell it on Reverb.
That's how absurd the fees have gotten over the past year. Sorry but taking an 8.5% chunk out of a high-end guitar is far beyond reasonable. The "cap" on fees is set at $10,000 so you are paying the same percentage rate for a $9,999 guitar and a $100 guitar. I'm much less willing to fork over that sort of percentage for something that's nearly five-figures.
If that means listing up a high price on Reverb and making it much easier to find me on other corners of the internet (for much less money), then so be it.
Side note -- there is a lot of animosity in this thread towards high prices. Perhaps offsets have merely been undervalued for many years and the market is finally correcting itself? Just another take... you may be conditioned to seeing prices that have historically been lower than they should, if the market for other guitar models are anything to go by. If you missed the boat before this market correction, that doesn't make everybody else a predatory capitalist. Go buy the least expensive sunburst offset you can find and sooner (rather than later) it'll be a damn good move, given the prices of refins right now.
That's how absurd the fees have gotten over the past year. Sorry but taking an 8.5% chunk out of a high-end guitar is far beyond reasonable. The "cap" on fees is set at $10,000 so you are paying the same percentage rate for a $9,999 guitar and a $100 guitar. I'm much less willing to fork over that sort of percentage for something that's nearly five-figures.
If that means listing up a high price on Reverb and making it much easier to find me on other corners of the internet (for much less money), then so be it.
Side note -- there is a lot of animosity in this thread towards high prices. Perhaps offsets have merely been undervalued for many years and the market is finally correcting itself? Just another take... you may be conditioned to seeing prices that have historically been lower than they should, if the market for other guitar models are anything to go by. If you missed the boat before this market correction, that doesn't make everybody else a predatory capitalist. Go buy the least expensive sunburst offset you can find and sooner (rather than later) it'll be a damn good move, given the prices of refins right now.
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 pm
name checks outHighnumbers wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:25 amWhen I list something on Reverb, my goal is to NOT sell it on Reverb.
That's how absurd the fees have gotten over the past year. Sorry but taking an 8.5% chunk out of a high-end guitar is far beyond reasonable. The "cap" on fees is set at $10,000 so you are paying the same percentage rate for a $9,999 guitar and a $100 guitar. I'm much less willing to fork over that sort of percentage for something that's nearly five-figures.
If that means listing up a high price on Reverb and making it much easier to find me on other corners of the internet (for much less money), then so be it.
Side note -- there is a lot of animosity in this thread towards high prices. Perhaps offsets have merely been undervalued for many years and the market is finally correcting itself? Just another take... you may be conditioned to seeing prices that have historically been lower than they should, if the market for other guitar models are anything to go by. If you missed the boat before this market correction, that doesn't make everybody else a predatory capitalist. Go buy the least expensive sunburst offset you can find and sooner (rather than later) it'll be a damn good move, given the prices of refins right now.
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 pm
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:36 pm
name checks out
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Doesn't refer to that, but ummkay.
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:19 am
Yeah what the fuck it’s seriously like they’re trying to annoy and lose customers with this shit it’s ridiculousandy_tchp wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:02 amHaha, oh, but it comes with a photo of the first, sorry, 'original' owner too - what a bargain! And those guys position themselves as 'experts' on offsets.graceless wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 pmOh my god:bterry wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:41 pm
It gets worse...
https://www.mmguitarbar.com/listing/196 ... e/38099187
"A custom color example, this guitar is extremely original save for a body-only nitro lacquer refinish back to the original color, matching the headstock face which retains its original Olympic White gloss."
A little misleading there, no? I'd say it's no longer a custom color once it's been refinished"Extremely original except for the most important thing"
I mean, honestly, it's original or not. No such thing as 'extremely original'. Radical, bro!
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:20 am
Kinda want pusheen to see this and comment about how that happens. I know he’s been out of there for a while now but still
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:51 am
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:21 am
"Professionally refinished in Fiesta Red 3 months ago .
Pre-CBS JM - rebuilt from 3 different 1959 Jazzmasters. "
10k
https://reverb.com/item/38965819-fender ... -headstock
Pre-CBS JM - rebuilt from 3 different 1959 Jazzmasters. "
10k
https://reverb.com/item/38965819-fender ... -headstock
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:12 am
id pay that if the furniture is included.Axolotl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:21 am"Professionally refinished in Fiesta Red 3 months ago .
Pre-CBS JM - rebuilt from 3 different 1959 Jazzmasters. "
10k
https://reverb.com/item/38965819-fender ... -headstock
love that one!
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:09 am
Meh, I'm sure he'll probably have a measured and reasonable answer lol. I doubt he thinks it's cool to ask $15k for a refin partscaster, but he probably also understands why prices are high at the moment due to his experience.Mechanical Birds wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:20 amKinda want pusheen to see this and comment about how that happens. I know he’s been out of there for a while now but still
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:14 am
Just saw one on Gumtree the other day with a £700 asking price. Nuts, but then again, if you look at the current price of JMs/Jags from the same time/place it's maybe not as nuts as it first appears. A recognisable part of growing old is starting to think everything is overpriced.s_mcsleazy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:44 pmoh if you don't mind it not being pre-80. i'd go with vista jagmasters
Vintage schmintage, I say, unless you're a millionaire. Parts guitars will have to do. And they do. They do just fine.
Re: Cheapest way into a vintage offset?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:29 am
honestly, once you get a parts guitar dialed in and setup nicely, it can be way better than most factory guitars.UlricvonCatalyst wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:14 amJust saw one on Gumtree the other day with a £700 asking price. Nuts, but then again, if you look at the current price of JMs/Jags from the same time/place it's maybe not as nuts as it first appears. A recognisable part of growing old is starting to think everything is overpriced.s_mcsleazy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:44 pmoh if you don't mind it not being pre-80. i'd go with vista jagmasters
Vintage schmintage, I say, unless you're a millionaire. Parts guitars will have to do. And they do. They do just fine.