Cheapest way into a vintage offset?

[adamrobertt]

Yeah that's the one I meant. Refin, hacked body, 0 original electronics. Should be $2500, not $5000.

[gishuk]

I also think these days a lot of shops list on Reverb at high prices for advertising essentially and will sell for a fair bit less if you contact them and buy off their own website, which isnt entirely surprising given the increase in fees.

[cestlamort]

I think Reverb’s lack of disincentive for listing something high and then taking an offer has caused everything to creep up as well.

[Highnumbers]

When I list something on Reverb, my goal is to NOT sell it on Reverb.

That's how absurd the fees have gotten over the past year. Sorry but taking an 8.5% chunk out of a high-end guitar is far beyond reasonable. The "cap" on fees is set at $10,000 so you are paying the same percentage rate for a $9,999 guitar and a $100 guitar. I'm much less willing to fork over that sort of percentage for something that's nearly five-figures.

If that means listing up a high price on Reverb and making it much easier to find me on other corners of the internet (for much less money), then so be it.

Side note -- there is a lot of animosity in this thread towards high prices. Perhaps offsets have merely been undervalued for many years and the market is finally correcting itself? Just another take... you may be conditioned to seeing prices that have historically been lower than they should, if the market for other guitar models are anything to go by. If you missed the boat before this market correction, that doesn't make everybody else a predatory capitalist. Go buy the least expensive sunburst offset you can find and sooner (rather than later) it'll be a damn good move, given the prices of refins right now.

[adamrobertt]

When I list something on Reverb, my goal is to NOT sell it on Reverb.

That's how absurd the fees have gotten over the past year. Sorry but taking an 8.5% chunk out of a high-end guitar is far beyond reasonable. The "cap" on fees is set at $10,000 so you are paying the same percentage rate for a $9,999 guitar and a $100 guitar. I'm much less willing to fork over that sort of percentage for something that's nearly five-figures.

If that means listing up a high price on Reverb and making it much easier to find me on other corners of the internet (for much less money), then so be it.

Side note -- there is a lot of animosity in this thread towards high prices. Perhaps offsets have merely been undervalued for many years and the market is finally correcting itself? Just another take... you may be conditioned to seeing prices that have historically been lower than they should, if the market for other guitar models are anything to go by. If you missed the boat before this market correction, that doesn't make everybody else a predatory capitalist. Go buy the least expensive sunburst offset you can find and sooner (rather than later) it'll be a damn good move, given the prices of refins right now.

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[O Drones]

[Highnumbers]

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Doesn't refer to that, but ummkay.

[Mechanical Birds]

It gets worse...

https://www.mmguitarbar.com/listing/196 ... e/38099187

Oh my god:

"A custom color example, this guitar is extremely original save for a body-only nitro lacquer refinish back to the original color, matching the headstock face which retains its original Olympic White gloss."

A little misleading there, no? I'd say it's no longer a custom color once it's been refinished "Extremely original except for the most important thing"

I mean, honestly, it's original or not. No such thing as 'extremely original'. Radical, bro!

Haha, oh, but it comes with a photo of the first, sorry, 'original' owner too - what a bargain! And those guys position themselves as 'experts' on offsets.

Yeah what the fuck it’s seriously like they’re trying to annoy and lose customers with this shit it’s ridiculous

[Mechanical Birds]

Kinda want pusheen to see this and comment about how that happens. I know he’s been out of there for a while now but still

[alvinstraight]

1958/1965 Factory Partsmaster. Only 15k.

https://reverend-guitar-man.myshopify.c ... ium=Social

[Axolotl]

"Professionally refinished in Fiesta Red 3 months ago .
Pre-CBS JM - rebuilt from 3 different 1959 Jazzmasters. "

10k

https://reverb.com/item/38965819-fender ... -headstock

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"Professionally refinished in Fiesta Red 3 months ago .
Pre-CBS JM - rebuilt from 3 different 1959 Jazzmasters. "

10k

https://reverb.com/item/38965819-fender ... -headstock

id pay that if the furniture is included.

love that one!

[adamrobertt]

Kinda want pusheen to see this and comment about how that happens. I know he’s been out of there for a while now but still

Meh, I'm sure he'll probably have a measured and reasonable answer lol. I doubt he thinks it's cool to ask $15k for a refin partscaster, but he probably also understands why prices are high at the moment due to his experience.

[UlricvonCatalyst]

oh if you don't mind it not being pre-80. i'd go with vista jagmasters

Just saw one on Gumtree the other day with a £700 asking price. Nuts, but then again, if you look at the current price of JMs/Jags from the same time/place it's maybe not as nuts as it first appears. A recognisable part of growing old is starting to think everything is overpriced.

Vintage schmintage, I say, unless you're a millionaire. Parts guitars will have to do. And they do. They do just fine.

[s_mcsleazy]

oh if you don't mind it not being pre-80. i'd go with vista jagmasters

Just saw one on Gumtree the other day with a £700 asking price. Nuts, but then again, if you look at the current price of JMs/Jags from the same time/place it's maybe not as nuts as it first appears. A recognisable part of growing old is starting to think everything is overpriced.

Vintage schmintage, I say, unless you're a millionaire. Parts guitars will have to do. And they do. They do just fine.

honestly, once you get a parts guitar dialed in and setup nicely, it can be way better than most factory guitars.