One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by Embenny » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:03 am

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What does a second Jazzmaster bring to your collection, that you don't already get from your CIJ? If the CIJ is always #1, this guitar will never be more than an extra Jazzmaster. Move on the '72 JM. There are lots of people who would make it their #1.
There's wisdom in this statement.

Time and time again, I find myself doubling or tripling down on a guitar I love, only to realize that the duplicates are also-rans.

I did that with vintage Jags and vintage Mustangs when I first got bit by the vintage bug, then realized that I had a favourite of each while the others just sat in cases. I'm down to one Mustang and two Jags, and I really ought to sell or trade the second Jag since I never play it.

The only way it works out for me is if one is modded with an entirely different style of pickups so that they sound nothing alike. That gives me a compelling reason to use both. But when I had three vintage Mustangs with their stock pickups, I just played the one that felt the best because the others offered nothing but a different look and slightly worse playing experience.

So while the Coronado may be the most niche, the second JM is the most redundant. Either could be a good choice.

Or do what I've sometimes done. List both of them for a high price, and let fate decide which one goes. A couple of years ago, I put my AV65 JM (whose gold finish I didn't love, but played and sounded amazing) and MIJ Mascis JM (whose finish and neck I loved, but needed new electronics and hardware to really be a keeper) up for stupid prices, and my decision was made for me when someone offered me a king's ransom for the Mascis.

You could do the same. B&B JMs are more popular than ever, and a LPB Coronado II is a rare beast. If time and budget permit, list them locally for somewhere between "Reverb asking price" and "he must be DREAMIN'," and see what happens.

Someone eventually gave me $1800 and a PRS with Creamery pickups for that Mascis. I sold the PRS for $1600 and kept the Creamery pickups, so I got an absurd $3700 of value out of it. The market may be slower now than it was then, but sometimes listing rare guitars for "I don't actually want to sell this" prices can yield surprising results.

Or just keep all of them if they make you happy and you have the physical and budgetary room for them.
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by JSett » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:08 am

There is sense in that Mike.

In all honesty I could live without both the Jaguar and the Coronado (and with a 14k kitchen coming up to pay for, the money would be handy).

Maybe I should list those two as they're played the least. I know there's at least one person here that'd buy the Jaguar Kinmans from me :ph34r:
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by Kinx » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:58 am

I would be after that Jag in a heartbeat, but I suppose there's a line of potential buyers already... :?
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by cestlamort » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:09 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:45 am

Ideally I'd like to get to just 3 guitars, but I realise that might be extremely hard for me to do. The Silver JM and Telecaster are 100% going nowhere. I could happily live out the rest of my days with just those
Maybe set yourself up however you need to in order to feel comfortable with what you have and to be able to jump on some random vintage/cool one that pops up for sale when given the chance. Because it is also fun and enjoyable to buy and try out new stuff, even if it doesn’t stick around.

I also have a predilection towards redundancy with the gear I love (maybe due to using old non-reliable pedals for so many years; I had 5 (2.5 sets) of the old Ibanez racks for a while… why exactly?) but I’m trying to move away from backups (of my backups etc) as there is always a winner and a last place. Other times, it’s nice to have slight variation: do I feel like French Vanilla or Vanilla Bean today? (Ultimately healthier to just have a piece of fruit. Or maybe a cheese plate could be nice).

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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by Larry Mal » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:17 am

I had missed the kitchen renovation. Yeah, something needs to go, I guess.

I like Mike's advice. I once had two ES-335s and I could not decide which one to sell, I put them both up and let fate decide.

Ended up selling them both ultimately, though.
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by Embenny » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:30 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:08 am
There is sense in that Mike.

In all honesty I could live without both the Jaguar and the Coronado (and with a 14k kitchen coming up to pay for, the money would be handy).

Maybe I should list those two as they're played the least. I know there's at least one person here that'd buy the Jaguar Kinmans from me :ph34r:
Hah, I already have two sets of Kinmans for the '62 Jag and Marauder, so the only reason I'd need a third would be if I decided to keep and mod the '66 Jag, but this thread has me thinking again about how I should just stick it up for sale at an "I don't want to sell this" price and let fate decide. My main reason for keeping it is FOMO - vintage Offsets have reached prices I'm no longer willing to pay, so I know if I sell it that I'll never get another.

Why would that matter? I have no idea. My '62 is my dream Jaguar so I'm still not sure why I'd ever choose the '66 over it in any given moment. These things are emotionally complicated sometimes :D
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by DeathJag » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:15 pm

One word:

Backups.

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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by JSett » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:42 pm

I had a band rehearsal tonight and used the new '72 exclusively. The only downside was the hum (compared to Kinmans in my #1) and it was a lot brighter...but that's likely down to it having the original 1meg pots whereas I've been using 500k recently in my other one. Neck was super comfy, it sounded great and the lightness was a real bonus. It's definitely the first one I've bought recently that's slotted in almost perfectly straight away.

Maybe I should just let the OSG family have a bite out of the Jaguar and Coronado, plenty of people have expressed desires for them and if they're not getting the love they could be just sat here I'd rather them out in the wild again. The Jag has been with me over a year now and, as much as I love it, I'm definitely a 25.5" kinda guy.

64 Jaguar £4.5k
67 Coronado £2k

Seem fair?
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by DeathJag » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:46 pm

It's not fair because I don't have any money right now!

But holy shit dude, you're a maniac.

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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by JSett » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:49 pm

DeathJag wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:46 pm
But holy shit dude, you're a maniac.
Mike's right. Put them both up and let fate decide.

I might have accidentally had an insane offer for the Jazzmaster last night too so it's all up in the air!
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by welshywelsh » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:15 am

Oh Jesus those prices are tempting. Have you got a thread with the Jag and specs on?

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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by JSett » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:22 am

welshywelsh wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:15 am
Oh Jesus those prices are tempting. Have you got a thread with the Jag and specs on?
There is one but most of the picture links have died for some reason, so they're reposted in the 1st post. Specs are 1964 Jaguar, old old LPB refin, OHSC, mute and cover present (mute screws MIA but easy to replace), OG bridge missing, Mastery included instead. Some screws have been changed (vibrato mostly), pots are 64/65 IIRC, original pickups and wiring. Slim B size neck.

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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by sal paradise » Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:26 am

If I had the money I’d buy it to hang on my wall. It’s gorgeous.

And at some point get a new nut & play it lefty.
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by Trout » Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:59 am

I don’t know if someone already stated the obvious. The kitchen is out :P
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Re: One In, One Out. The hardest choices...

Post by JSett » Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:16 am

Trout wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:59 am
I don’t know if someone already stated the obvious. The kitchen is out :P
Mate, I've been putting it off for 14 years, I don't think I'd get away with putting it off again :D
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