1969 CAR Jag original PUs?

[funnylittle]

Just bought this guitar CAR Jag not for the price on the site though ...
Since it hasn't arrived yet: Can these pickups be original? I looked at MANY CBS Jags and almost all of them have the period correct staggered pole pieces.
I found one example in the Zhivago's Vintage Hotties section with flat PUs and one 1970s Jaguar pickup for sale in Germany that does not have the staggered pole pieces. Most likely they are non original then, right?

Any help is highly appreciated!

[Embenny]

I would be absolutely shocked if those were original pickups.

[JSett]

I would be absolutely shocked if those were original pickups.

Agreed. A lot of that looks unusually shiny and new. The pickguard bevel looks kinda weird too.

I wouldn't trust anyone that can't work out that 1969 is 53 years ago as well

[funnylittle]

I would be absolutely shocked if those were original pickups.

Agreed. A lot of that looks unusually shiny and new. The pickguard bevel looks kinda weird too.

I wouldn't trust anyone that can't work out that 1969 is 53 years ago as well

I agree with both of you and will post pics once it has arrived.
What are these though?
70s Jag PU
70s Jag PU2

[Nico]

Congrats, that's a pretty nice piece.
I wouldn't say it's a steal at the initial price but if you had a better price, you got a pretty good deal it seems.

[BoringPostcards]

Gorgeous jag. Post some more pics when it arrives.

[GreenKnee]

Agreed. A lot of that looks unusually shiny and new.

The chrome pieces look very clean, but as does the bridge cover which is definitely original due to its 'crimped' ends. I'd be inclined to say it's been looked after/not played too much.

[JSett]

Agreed. A lot of that looks unusually shiny and new.

The chrome pieces look very clean, but as does the bridge cover which is definitely original due to its 'crimped' ends. I'd be inclined to say it's been looked after/not played too much.

Very true. Bridge covers tend to spend most/all their life in the case though. The paint doesn't appear to have dulled at all which could be through being left the hell alone (and in a case).

Pickups 99.999% are not original - I'd bet a significant chunk of change on that fact. And they also don't mention anywhere in the listing that they're original

[funnylittle]

It has arrived and plays remarkably well straight out of the box (seller mentioned a recent setup, but they always do, don't they?).
The CAR aged quite nicely, big chunks of paint underneath the pickguard have come off.
I'm not sure about pickups and neck yet, have to do some research ...

EDIT: After even more hours of looking at pickups: Crazy idea, but did someone sand the poles down on this Jag?

[Unicorn Warrior]

Idk, but that’s an absolute dream of a guitar

[Zork]

EDIT: After even more hours of looking at pickups: Crazy idea, but did someone sand the poles down on this Jag?

I doubt that a pickup would survive this. Magnets and tiny metal filings are a very deadly combination for a coil.

[Axolotl]

I hate to say this, but that neck pocket looks strange to me with that chunk of bare wood. Never seen anything like it. Also some of the paintless spots of the body... no primer or undercoat whatsoever? Looks like the bare wood right under the CAR. Probably by 69 some crazy things were happening at Fender's paint department but still, I'd like to hear opinions by some forumites more versed than me in this matter.

Not sure about the pickups, they look about right without the covers. I also see a bit of plastic wiring, was this already happening in 69?

Lovely guitar regardless!

[funnylittle]

Idk, but that’s an absolute dream of a guitar

Thank you, it looks and plays like a dream.

EDIT: After even more hours of looking at pickups: Crazy idea, but did someone sand the poles down on this Jag?

I doubt that a pickup would survive this. Magnets and tiny metal filings are a very deadly combination for a coil.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I was wildly guessing because the poles seem very short ... I will have to check the neck pickup for any dates or more info ...

I hate to say this, but that neck pocket looks strange to me with that chunk of bare wood. Never seen anything like it. Also some of the paintless spots of the body... no primer or undercoat whatsoever? Looks like the bare wood right under the CAR. Probably by 69 some crazy things were happening at Fender's paint department but still, I'd like to hear opinions by some forumites more versed than me in this matter.

Not sure about the pickups, they look about right without the covers. I also see a bit of plastic wiring, was this already happening in 69?

Lovely guitar regardless!

Thank you! I've seen similar neck pockets, not without primer though.
1965 Jag neck Pocket
Maybe an experiment as they were introducing poly finishes in ca. 1968?

[Zork]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I was wildly guessing because the poles seem very short ... I will have to check the neck pickup for any dates or more info ...

I can see what you mean. In the picture the pole pieces for the b and g strings look totally as if they were shortened with a healthy dose of redneck attitude. I really don't have a lot of knowledge about vintage pickups to be honest, but filings - for example from polishing the frets - can potentially shorten out the pickup. So if someone filed down or sawn the actual polepieces chances are very, very little it goes well without damage. But you never know, maybe someone just went at it and it magically worked...? But there's one thing for sure: That's a mega cool guitar!

[kapepper]

Idk, but that’s an absolute dream of a guitar

Thank you, it looks and plays like a dream.

EDIT: After even more hours of looking at pickups: Crazy idea, but did someone sand the poles down on this Jag?

I doubt that a pickup would survive this. Magnets and tiny metal filings are a very deadly combination for a coil.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I was wildly guessing because the poles seem very short ... I will have to check the neck pickup for any dates or more info ...

I hate to say this, but that neck pocket looks strange to me with that chunk of bare wood. Never seen anything like it. Also some of the paintless spots of the body... no primer or undercoat whatsoever? Looks like the bare wood right under the CAR. Probably by 69 some crazy things were happening at Fender's paint department but still, I'd like to hear opinions by some forumites more versed than me in this matter.

Not sure about the pickups, they look about right without the covers. I also see a bit of plastic wiring, was this already happening in 69?

Lovely guitar regardless!

Thank you! I've seen similar neck pockets, not without primer though.
1965 Jag neck Pocket
Maybe an experiment as they were introducing poly finishes in ca. 1968?

I had a similar one. Without primer and the peace sign in the neck pocket
Nice guitar and this really looks like a great deal at this moment