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more compression?

Post by sonnengott » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:55 am

hi,
my "trace elliot speed twin h50" isn't that compressioned i want it for.
what effect (pedal or rack) can i use?

p.e. boss cs3 ?
any other good ideas?

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Post by Sauerkraut » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:07 am

I once bought an old DOD 280 compressor on ebay because it was cheap ($30) and I was already buying another pedal from the same seller. It can get noisy when you crank it but still I think it's very good. I wouldn't pay much for it, but if you happen to find one at a good price you should try it.

here's a review from harmony-central I completely agree with:

"Overall this is a nice-sounding compressor. It can get a little quirky. As someone else mentioned, the volume can dip unpredictably after a sharp attack at certain settings. I'm not sure why that is. It seems to do it at some of the middle settings. At very high or low compression settings, the problem disappears, so I can work with it. I got a great deal on this thing.

With the compression all the way down, it's fairly translucent. It doesn't color your tone much, and it keeps your volume levels fairly even without sounding unnatural. As you crank it up, it sounds more and more squished, kind of "creamy," if that word means anything at all. Noise level increases with compression level, as you'd expect, but nothing too outrageous. Adds some nice sustain.

Plenty of volume, too. More than enough to drive your tube amp, if you wish.

A nice-sounding, MXR-y compressor, with a few quirks. I love the paint job, by the way. Looks like an orange creamsicle. If I can find a mod to fix the quirkiness, I'll definitely do it. Good sounds overall. Kind of classic-sounding, like Andy Summers' clean tone (I have an Electric Mistress too, so that helps). I got gobs of sustain with it running into a cheapy Dano Fab Distortion, with volume and compression cranked, and the drive (but not volume) on the Fab cranked, with my guitar volume backed off some... it sounded pretty Big Muff-like, with a good 20 seconds of sustain. Fun to play around with.

If not for the volume dips, I'd give it a 9."

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Re: more compression?

Post by sonnengott » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:14 am

hm, with dod i'Ve made bad experience.... and i thin i have to crank it  :o 8)
but i'll have a look on it, to check it out

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Post by Sauerkraut » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:17 am

sonnengott wrote: hm, with dod i'Ve made bad experience.... and i thin i have to crank it  :o 8)
but i'll have a look on it, to check it out
it's not one of those ugly new DOD pedals like this:

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it's an older one, from when they were MXR copycats, looks like this:

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Re: more compression?

Post by sonnengott » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:00 am

...and sounds better?

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Post by Sauerkraut » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:10 am

I never tried the new ones, but I think old DOD's are generally believed to be better than new ones.

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Re: more compression?

Post by cestlamort » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:22 am

compressors are probably the most subtle effect and the hardest to shop for.  I've gone through a bunch and I'm still not really happy with any of them. 

I probably like the ibanez/maxon ones the best, since they sound the most transparent (still like your guitar).  My advice, find a dyna comp or something similar and go from there.  Have patience and be willing to switch it out. 

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Re: more compression?

Post by Redstar30 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:35 am

I’ve been pretty satisfied with my Guyatone comp/sustainer

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Re: more compression?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:15 pm

noirengineer wrote: I recommend the HBE Comp Retro, at 75$ bucks it's pretty cheap too.
75 bucks?! where?

they go for twice that on ebay:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dl ... p=1&fsoo=1

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Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:17 pm

oh wait, you're right:

http://www.webervst.com/bns/messages/42033.html

they can be found at good prices.

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Re: more compression?

Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:28 pm

It might be expensive if you live in Europe though and you won't find offers like that over here. If I was Sonnengott I'd try and talk this guy into sending it to Europe.

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Post by Sauerkraut » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:58 pm

noirengineer wrote: you'll see em going for 80$ on average and don't let the guy screw you on shipping.
says the guy who screwed some poor Frenchman and made $90 profit..

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Re: more compression?

Post by Sauerkraut » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:30 am

I'm just kidding of course.

If I ever sell my old Rat I'll probably get three times as much as I paid for it, I'm not going to refuse the offers because I paid much less.

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Re: more compression?

Post by sonnengott » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:39 am

ony other ideas?
a 19" thing?

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