Boss Waza DS-1w

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Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by Zork » Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:45 am

Apparently there's a Waza DS-1:

https://youtu.be/bLirwRzrxJ4 (Brett Kingman Demo)

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by Zork » Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:20 pm

It seems the overall exitement here could need some improvement... :D

Well, I gotta say, I own a DS-1 but I'm not a huge fan - which probably applies to 96% of the guitarists worldwide. So from all the cool pedals they could have waza-fied, this seems like an odd choice. On the other hand it's undeniable a classic, so maybe it just deserves a little fancy treatment.

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by stevejamsecono » Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:36 pm

Yeah I'm not sure why they did this exactly aside from it being a 'classic'. Honestly, I don't think I've liked any of the guitarists who've used a DS-1. It's just... not that great of a sound.

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by mekhem » Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:24 pm

Isn't the DS-21 the most popular and best selling distortion pedal in the world? I am surprised it took them this long.

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by Futuron » Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:42 pm

Yeah I saw the Boss demo yesterday. Dude is rocking out in his lounge room like a pub gig, haha.

Never owned a DS-1, no adults seem to recommend them, despite every young guitarist having one.


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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by JSett » Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:02 am

DS-1's are the candy cigarettes you 'smoke' as a kid until you realise there's the real thing out there and get hooked on the proper stuff
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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by sal paradise » Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:45 am

I bought an anniversary DS-1 for no real reason other than sentimentality. Never plugged it in, all I can remember is oe compressed they sound. That video does sound good though.

I spent most of my youth with a danelectro daddy-o, not a ds-1 until I was about 18. By that point I quickly moved to the mesa sound on Line 6 Pod into a Marshall valvestate head :ph34r:

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by JVG » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:47 am

Not my cup of tea, but I think the Custom mode sounds better than Standard mode - a little less mushy. I reckon they will sell pretty well, even if not amongst OSG folk.

So now it’s back to guessing what’s next!

I’m a big fan of the Waza series - I’m really hoping they do the PH1r.

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by jvin248 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:23 am

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The secret to using a DS-1 is don't push the gain beyond 50%.
Kids crank them to 100% MOAR DISTORTION plus run them through a small noisy practice amp and ... that's why those pedals end up hated. Same problem with Boss MT-2 Metal Zone pedals but in a bigger way (oh so much fizziness up there).

Through guitar trades I ended up with three DS-1s, because every kid with a starter to medium guitar has a DS-1 that gets thrown in with the other gear when they quit playing. My plan was to experiment modding one with the hundred Internet mods out there but while test driving the baseline and the victim pedal I stacked the pair with one at just under 50% and the other around 25% there was a range of glorious tones. So I kept the pedals stock and stack them.


This guy shows a TS and DS-1 stacked, which is what happens with my pair of unmodded DS-1s stacked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ho45_yq0s
Every time I think I need a Tube Screamer I do the youtube comparison rounds and the DS-1 can do TS stuff sufficiently well at lower gain I just keep what I have.


(I did eventually mod one of the several Metal Zone MT-2 tossers I got along the way with the Waza Mod and it really improved it, I still don't go above 50% gain on this one either. Brian Wampler started his pedal business modding MT-2s and he really likes them for the extra EQ controls they have, while Ola Englund did a video using an MT-2 and "it sounds really good in the effects loop" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxRe99Tjlwg ... same thing applies don't be a kid running everything at max distortion and these are good pedals).

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by sal paradise » Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:35 am

jvin248 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:23 am
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The secret to using a DS-1 is don't push the gain beyond 50%.
Kids crank them to 100% MOAR DISTORTION plus run them through a small noisy practice amp and ... that's why those pedals end up hated. Same problem with Boss MT-2 Metal Zone pedals but in a bigger way (oh so much fizziness up there).

Through guitar trades I ended up with three DS-1s, because every kid with a starter to medium guitar has a DS-1 that gets thrown in with the other gear when they quit playing. My plan was to experiment modding one with the hundred Internet mods out there but while test driving the baseline and the victim pedal I stacked the pair with one at just under 50% and the other around 25% there was a range of glorious tones. So I kept the pedals stock and stack them.


This guy shows a TS and DS-1 stacked, which is what happens with my pair of unmodded DS-1s stacked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ho45_yq0s
Every time I think I need a Tube Screamer I do the youtube comparison rounds and the DS-1 can do TS stuff sufficiently well at lower gain I just keep what I have.


(I did eventually mod one of the several Metal Zone MT-2 tossers I got along the way with the Waza Mod and it really improved it, I still don't go above 50% gain on this one either. Brian Wampler started his pedal business modding MT-2s and he really likes them for the extra EQ controls they have, while Ola Englund did a video using an MT-2 and "it sounds really good in the effects loop" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxRe99Tjlwg ... same thing applies don't be a kid running everything at max distortion and these are good pedals).

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by shoegaze_head » Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:00 pm

stevejamsecono wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:36 pm
Yeah I'm not sure why they did this exactly aside from it being a 'classic'. Honestly, I don't think I've liked any of the guitarists who've used a DS-1. It's just... not that great of a sound.

Waza GE-7, BF-2, HF-2? Bring it on.
I second the waza BF-2. I have a BF-3 I love but its so dang noisy. I thought the point of the waza series was to bring back cool rare effects like the CE-2 and DC-2W, and the SD-1 and BD-2 were just sorta to pad out the collection. To me the DS-1 is a little too commonplace to want a waza version.

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by s_mcsleazy » Sat Oct 08, 2022 5:29 pm

i sent this demo to my bandmate who's been using a DS1 since they were 13 and this is the message i got in return "why the hell would they try making it sound nice? the whole point is it's meant to sound like trash"

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by JackFawkes » Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:33 am

shoegaze_head wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:00 pm
I thought the point of the waza series was to bring back cool rare effects like the CE-2 and DC-2W, and the SD-1 and BD-2 were just sorta to pad out the collection. To me the DS-1 is a little too commonplace to want a waza version.
I agree, I too thought that the purpose of the "Waza" pedals was an excuse to rerelease some of their discontinued pedals as "new" models, not just offer "boutique"-style enhancements to their still in-production models?

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by BearBoy » Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:26 am

They're split 50:50 between upgraded reissues (DM-2w, VB-2w, CE-2w, DC-2w & HM-2w) and upgraded current models (SD-1w, BD-2w, TU-3w, MT-2w & DS-1w) and then you've got the two fuzzes which are neither (TB-2w & FZ-1w).

Personally I'd like to see a Waza PH-1w, PN-2w or BF-2w but I guess we're just as likely to get a TR-2w or OD-3w or something.

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Re: Boss Waza DS-1w

Post by stevejamsecono » Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:44 pm

JackFawkes wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:33 am
shoegaze_head wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:00 pm
I thought the point of the waza series was to bring back cool rare effects like the CE-2 and DC-2W, and the SD-1 and BD-2 were just sorta to pad out the collection. To me the DS-1 is a little too commonplace to want a waza version.
I agree, I too thought that the purpose of the "Waza" pedals was an excuse to rerelease some of their discontinued pedals as "new" models, not just offer "boutique"-style enhancements to their still in-production models?

Jack
So, I think I get in the sense that there's been this cottage industry of people modding popular Boss pedals for ages (Analogman, Keeley, etc.) and I think Boss rightfully probably thinks they deserve a piece of that. I concur that this isn't really how I'd like to see the Waza series be the focus for, but at the same time if Boss wants to come up with its own mods for its own pedals I don't see any harm there.
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