Servicing an old Rat?

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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by JSett » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:24 am

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It's annoying to need to replace one transistor if you don't have them on hand already. You either find yourself buying way more than you need, or paying $10 in shipping costs for a $0.20 part, or contriving a bunch of other stuff to buy to make the shipping worth it.
Indeed. I have similar ones in the parts box but I have found somewhere who's shipping me a pair for about £2 which is still annoying for such a cheap component but not worth getting angry about
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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by øøøøøøø » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:24 am

Especially since £2 isn’t worth all that much these days!

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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by JSett » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:28 am

øøøøøøø wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:24 am
Especially since £2 isn’t worth all that much these days!
HAH! Don't, it's a fucking shitshow over here. I'm fortunate enough that, if it gets bad, the worst I'll have to do is sell a couple of guitars and ride the storm...but there's people literally starving and freezing here thanks to our governments utter incompetence and open disdain.
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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by MrShake » Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:12 pm

Johnny, I'm disappointed FOR you.

Still rooting for you. This is super valuable info to start collecting.

You're in the Rat Restoration Vanguard.

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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by JSett » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:01 pm

MrShake wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:12 pm
Johnny, I'm disappointed FOR you.

Still rooting for you. This is super valuable info to start collecting.

You're in the Rat Restoration Vanguard.
Fortunately it's not been a particularly challenging thing yet, just swapping out components. If the transistor swap doesn't do it then I might do the switch again and get a more traditional Carling DPDT type in there...the 3PDT I used was one I had lying around (of unknown make/origin) and was previously used on another project sometime in the past as I had to clean up and desolder the terminals. So it wasn't brand-spankin' new - which is a variable I guess. Also, it is a particularly 'clicky' switch compared to the old originals (so maybe the switch 'bounce' is at play here too).

I'll work it out, it'll be something in there. It's not exactly a complicated circuit.
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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by panoramic » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:58 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:01 pm
MrShake wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:12 pm
Johnny, I'm disappointed FOR you.

Still rooting for you. This is super valuable info to start collecting.

You're in the Rat Restoration Vanguard.
Fortunately it's not been a particularly challenging thing yet, just swapping out components. If the transistor swap doesn't do it then I might do the switch again and get a more traditional Carling DPDT type in there...the 3PDT I used was one I had lying around (of unknown make/origin) and was previously used on another project sometime in the past as I had to clean up and desolder the terminals. So it wasn't brand-spankin' new - which is a variable I guess. Also, it is a particularly 'clicky' switch compared to the old originals (so maybe the switch 'bounce' is at play here too).

I'll work it out, it'll be something in there. It's not exactly a complicated circuit.
I'll be watching this, I thought my rat was having issues but it actually wound up being the plug I was running my amp/pedals through being connected to a circuit in my neighbors apt. Once I sorted that out the issue is moot. I have replaced some pedal stuff but my hands are shaky AF nowadays.
I used to be cool, now I just complain about prices.

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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by JSett » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:01 am

Small update:

Replaced switch with a brand-spanking new one, an as-close-as-possible-to-period correct Carling 316-PP. Pop reduced, but still present.
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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by fuzzjunkie » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:21 am

Off topic: my old Vox was mostly Marshall replacement parts by the time I sold it to buy a 1993 Korg AC-30, but it still looked like a vintage amp on stage.

When do we start replacing old non-working pedal circuits with new ones? Take a Wren & Cuff Big Muff and wire it into your 1973 EHx enclosure?

Plenty of old guitars have newer pickups and wiring. Even bridge, neck and tremolo replacement.

I know there are some Fuzz Face and Cry Baby Wahs that have had surgery. Does it become a boutique industry?

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Re: Servicing an old Rat?

Post by MrShake » Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:03 am

fuzzjunkie wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:21 am
Off topic: my old Vox was mostly Marshall replacement parts by the time I sold it to buy a 1993 Korg AC-30, but it still looked like a vintage amp on stage.

When do we start replacing old non-working pedal circuits with new ones? Take a Wren & Cuff Big Muff and wire it into your 1973 EHx enclosure?

Plenty of old guitars have newer pickups and wiring. Even bridge, neck and tremolo replacement.

I know there are some Fuzz Face and Cry Baby Wahs that have had surgery. Does it become a boutique industry?
Theseus' Rat. A fair point. That's gonna be a whole can of worms in 15-20 years.

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