We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
- sal paradise
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We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Expanding from the gas thread… A couple of years ago I sold all my pedals & PT2 as it was too heavy to lug about London. I bought a Boss MS-3 to fix all my problems: a bag of tricks on a much smaller/lighter board.
Turns out I’m just not a multi-fx person. When I can’t tweak on the fly, I just ignore it. And that means I’ve basically stopped using pedals. And I love delay so it’s heartbreaking.
Time to put together a new board! I have drives & a tuner, but everything else I’m up for experimenting.
Might be similar to the ambient board thread as those are my kinda jam. I think this would cover a lot of ground- any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated:
- Digital delay
- Analogue delay
- Reverb w/ shimmer
- Tremolo (probably TR2 for the helicopter)
- Chorus
Turns out I’m just not a multi-fx person. When I can’t tweak on the fly, I just ignore it. And that means I’ve basically stopped using pedals. And I love delay so it’s heartbreaking.
Time to put together a new board! I have drives & a tuner, but everything else I’m up for experimenting.
Might be similar to the ambient board thread as those are my kinda jam. I think this would cover a lot of ground- any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated:
- Digital delay
- Analogue delay
- Reverb w/ shimmer
- Tremolo (probably TR2 for the helicopter)
- Chorus
I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion?
- Unicorn Warrior
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
For simplicities sake:sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:27 amExpanding from the gas thread… A couple of years ago I sold all my pedals & PT2 as it was too heavy to lug about London. I bought a Boss MS-3 to fix all my problems: a bag of tricks on a much smaller/lighter board.
Turns out I’m just not a multi-fx person. When I can’t tweak on the fly, I just ignore it. And that means I’ve basically stopped using pedals. And I love delay so it’s heartbreaking.
Time to put together a new board! I have drives & a tuner, but everything else I’m up for experimenting.
Might be similar to the ambient board thread as those are my kinda jam. I think this would cover a lot of ground- any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated:
- Digital delay
- Analogue delay
- Reverb w/ shimmer
- Tremolo (probably TR2 for the helicopter)
- Chorus
DD-3
Carbon Copy
Neunaber (the multi-otption one)
TR-2
CE-2w
- sal paradise
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Ooh, the Neunaber looks awesome.Unicorn Warrior wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:56 amFor simplicities sake:
DD-3
Carbon Copy
Neunaber (the multi-otption one)
TR-2
CE-2w
Simplicity is what I’m looking for. And had no idea about the CE-2w. That could be perfect. Cheers!
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Hey, good for trying something else.
For "basic, good sounding stuff", I might suggest a Boss Digital Delay, a Memory Boy or Carbon Copy for the analog delay, and maybe for the chorus, I'd actually suggest a flanger? Turn down everything but rate and depth and you're in chorus territory, and flange as a bonus sound. I have a BF-2 and a Donner DEM clone for that spot and they do great at both.
Good luck!
For "basic, good sounding stuff", I might suggest a Boss Digital Delay, a Memory Boy or Carbon Copy for the analog delay, and maybe for the chorus, I'd actually suggest a flanger? Turn down everything but rate and depth and you're in chorus territory, and flange as a bonus sound. I have a BF-2 and a Donner DEM clone for that spot and they do great at both.
Good luck!
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Simplicity is great, but what's your budget?
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- sal paradise
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Just been looking at some videos on this trick. Never thought about it before and totally makes sense, thanks for pointing it out.
I was thinking about a phaser, so could use subtle flange instead and not need another pedal.
I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion?
- sal paradise
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Well, I was considering the Pink Flow… a few of the pedals will be pretty easy to get 2nd hand, so definitely budget for a boutique item or two.
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
I'm a big proponent of flange for those three sounds - liquidy classic flange, shimmery chorus, and a slooooow flange like some people use a phaser. Again, it's all to taste, but I think the Boss BF-2 excels at those things - I think Prince used a BF-2 for his chorus tones? - and I found a $30 Eno/EX clone that does a really good job at doing it too. I haven't had the best luck with the brand, but I imagine there's some other off-brand imports that could give you an idea for it in the $20-$30 range, I'll see what else I can find.sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:43 amJust been looking at some videos on this trick. Never thought about it before and totally makes sense, thanks for pointing it out.
I was thinking about a phaser, so could use subtle flange instead and not need another pedal.
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Ok there’s no way I don’t want a BF-2 now, this video has changed my lifeMrShake wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:07 amI'm a big proponent of flange for those three sounds - liquidy classic flange, shimmery chorus, and a slooooow flange like some people use a phaser. Again, it's all to taste, but I think the Boss BF-2 excels at those things - I think Prince used a BF-2 for his chorus tones? - and I found a $30 Eno/EX clone that does a really good job at doing it too. I haven't had the best luck with the brand, but I imagine there's some other off-brand imports that could give you an idea for it in the $20-$30 range, I'll see what else I can find.sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:43 amJust been looking at some videos on this trick. Never thought about it before and totally makes sense, thanks for pointing it out.
I was thinking about a phaser, so could use subtle flange instead and not need another pedal.
I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion?
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
This video is good. I have a BF-2 in the attic that I bought years ago and never much used, and the video is why I'll get it up and running on a small board tomorrow.sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:54 amOk there’s no way I don’t want a BF-2 now, this video has changed my lifeMrShake wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:07 amI'm a big proponent of flange for those three sounds - liquidy classic flange, shimmery chorus, and a slooooow flange like some people use a phaser. Again, it's all to taste, but I think the Boss BF-2 excels at those things - I think Prince used a BF-2 for his chorus tones? - and I found a $30 Eno/EX clone that does a really good job at doing it too. I haven't had the best luck with the brand, but I imagine there's some other off-brand imports that could give you an idea for it in the $20-$30 range, I'll see what else I can find.sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:43 am
Just been looking at some videos on this trick. Never thought about it before and totally makes sense, thanks for pointing it out.
I was thinking about a phaser, so could use subtle flange instead and not need another pedal.
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
If you don't mind a little bit of cash (secondhand boutique prices), I'm thinking a Jam Pedals Delay Llama (think classic EHX DMM with tap tempo) for your analog delay. If you like choppy, yet flexible tremolo pedals, an EQD Hummingbird (with the flexi-switching, so V3) can do a lot of tremolo sounds.sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:46 amWell, I was considering the Pink Flow… a few of the pedals will be pretty easy to get 2nd hand, so definitely budget for a boutique item or two.
I love the idea of the aforementioned flangers for flanging/rotary/chorus use.
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
Yeah, Llama just sounds more fun than say, a carbon copyShadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:42 amIf you don't mind a little bit of cash (secondhand boutique prices), I'm thinking a Jam Pedals Delay Llama (think classic EHX DMM with tap tempo) for your analog delay. If you like choppy, yet flexible tremolo pedals, an EQD Hummingbird (with the flexi-switching, so V3) can do a lot of tremolo sounds.sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:46 amWell, I was considering the Pink Flow… a few of the pedals will be pretty easy to get 2nd hand, so definitely budget for a boutique item or two.
I love the idea of the aforementioned flangers for flanging/rotary/chorus use.
Just ordered an eno bf-2 for £30… can’t go wrong for that money
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
You can't beat that for sure!!!!!sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:00 pmYeah, Llama just sounds more fun than say, a carbon copyShadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:42 amIf you don't mind a little bit of cash (secondhand boutique prices), I'm thinking a Jam Pedals Delay Llama (think classic EHX DMM with tap tempo) for your analog delay. If you like choppy, yet flexible tremolo pedals, an EQD Hummingbird (with the flexi-switching, so V3) can do a lot of tremolo sounds.sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:46 am
Well, I was considering the Pink Flow… a few of the pedals will be pretty easy to get 2nd hand, so definitely budget for a boutique item or two.
I love the idea of the aforementioned flangers for flanging/rotary/chorus use.
Just ordered an eno bf-2 for £30… can’t go wrong for that money
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Re: We will rebuild! (aka recovering from multi-fx)
If your budget will stretch to it, the new Boss Space Echo pedal looks mighty fine. Since you mentioned loving delay I doubt it would disappoint in either the analogue or digital spot on your board. Its tap tempo should see you past your aversion to the rate sub-divisions. And if your budget won't stretch, I can imagine some people will have upgraded from their RE-20s, so there might be a fair few of those on the second-hand market.
The Line6 DL4 remains a viable classic after all these years, but takes up a lot of real estate, and might not get along with all power supplies.
+1 on the CE-2w, or the BF-2/3. I really like the Dimension pedals (DC-2/3) too, but they're pricey; I can recommend the Behringer DC-3 clone (CD400 Chorus Space-D) which you might be able to find for substantially less - a very sweet-sounding pedal indeed, though not really a traditional chorus like the CE-2.
The Line6 DL4 remains a viable classic after all these years, but takes up a lot of real estate, and might not get along with all power supplies.
+1 on the CE-2w, or the BF-2/3. I really like the Dimension pedals (DC-2/3) too, but they're pricey; I can recommend the Behringer DC-3 clone (CD400 Chorus Space-D) which you might be able to find for substantially less - a very sweet-sounding pedal indeed, though not really a traditional chorus like the CE-2.
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Sweet! Hope you dig it. Yeah, that video really drives home why I've loved mine for years!sal paradise wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:00 pmJust ordered an eno bf-2 for £30… can’t go wrong for that money
It's funny, when I got mine ages ago, I liked it so much, I bought a second, it just clicked for me. It was back when GC didn't distinguish between used and vintage. The first one was a Y2K in great shape, with the box. The second one, no box, was the mintiest used pedal I've ever bought, with that "new paint" feeling, a black-knob 1982 MIJ. Both were $40. I bought my friend an MIT from '99 as a birthday gift in 2018, it was the same price.
Times have changed. The Eno will do the job admirably, if mine is any indication.