Blackface Bassman in a box?

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Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by JSett » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:33 pm

So, I'm trying to work out the logistics of the next (at least) year of my life relying on public transport and/or cycling places. The cornerstone of my current guitar sound with the band is my BF Bassman on the edge of breakup, being fed a Rat for the louder bits

Is there any good equivalent pedals or small modellers etc that I could, theoretically, throw into a backpack or attach to a board (preferably powered, but not essential) that emulate the sound well? Something like the Milkman 'The Amp' but Bassman flavoured.

Loads of Tweed Bassman stuff around thanks to all the blues lawyers, but my Google-Fu seems to be weak in finding BF versions.
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by UlricvonCatalyst » Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:58 pm

Only thing that came to mind was that Boss Deluxe Reverb pedal, but I guess that's not what you're after. This sounds like a job for your pal Frederick - could be a lucrative addition to his range.

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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by matbard » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:21 am

The new Universal Audio pedal is a Blackface in a box...

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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by MechaBulletBill » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:25 am

was just about to post that!

amt f1?

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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by JSett » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:29 am

Yeah, I was looking at the UA ones. The Bassman is very different to all the other Blackface amps though, they sound like an American Plexi more than the usual Deluxe/Princeton/Twin/etc.

There's loads of people aping the classic Fender clean BF and Tweed sound, but not the unusual AB165 circuit. Unfortunately
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by JSett » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:40 am

I am going to go check both the UA and the AMT F1 out again. I'll be honest, I'm probably being too fussy, I basically play punk/grunge so it's not exactly a particularly particular sound I require :D
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by Lost In Autumn » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:25 am

The Walrus Audio ACS-1 has a pretty stellar black panel fender setting. I've been using it on my pedal board after mod pedals and pre delay and reverb, then into an ART tube preamp before it hits my audio interface. I'd like to fettle with some different IRs to better emulate my live setup, but damn if it doesn't sound good out of the box.

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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by UlricvonCatalyst » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:10 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:29 am
The Bassman is very different to all the other Blackface amps
This may be the very essence of internet Chinese Whispers, but I distinctly remember my Mesa-loving mate telling me the circuit for his preferred one (mk. 4, I think?) is based on a Bassman. Could be a bum steer, but I'm pretty sure Joyo do a cheap Mesa-in-a-box which wouldn't break the bank to try. Could be called 'California Sound'....

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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by blacktiger » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:51 pm

Joyo American Sound. Apparently, these are based on the Tech 21 Blonde pedal, and they can get you tones across the spectrum of tweed to blackface. Plus, you should be able to pick one up for $40 or less. I’m very happy with mine.
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by andy_tchp » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:23 pm

johnnysomersett wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:29 am
Yeah, I was looking at the UA ones. The Bassman is very different to all the other Blackface amps though, they sound like an American Plexi more than the usual Deluxe/Princeton/Twin/etc.

There's loads of people aping the classic Fender clean BF and Tweed sound, but not the unusual AB165 circuit. Unfortunately
Yeah this is the point that seems to be getting missed - I don't think an off the shelf device exists.

You might have better luck pairing one of the classic "BF flavoured" boxes with an EQ to replace some of the mids that inevitably will have been sucked out.
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by BTL » Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:01 pm

matbard wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:21 am
The new Universal Audio pedal is a Blackface in a box...

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That looks and sounds really nice!
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by BTL » Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:05 pm

Isn’t the Bassman a JTM45 circuit? If so, what about a Strymon Iridium with a York Audio IR? Something on the menu should get you awfully close to the tone in your head.

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index ... r.2340044/
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by infiniteposse » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:42 am

Origin recently released two bass amp pedals, one of which is a BF Bassman: https://origineffects.com/product/bassr ... ack-panel/

It might be overkill for you, but their work seems too-notch and it could play other roles in your musical life.
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by BTL » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:13 am

infiniteposse wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:42 am
Origin recently released two bass amp pedals, one of which is a BF Bassman: https://origineffects.com/product/bassr ... ack-panel/

It might be overkill for you, but their work seems too-notch and it could play other roles in your musical life.
Nice! That has the added benefit of a built-in XLR out, great for direct applications.
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Re: Blackface Bassman in a box?

Post by JSett » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:19 am

infiniteposse wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:42 am
Origin recently released two bass amp pedals, one of which is a BF Bassman: https://origineffects.com/product/bassr ... ack-panel/

It might be overkill for you, but their work seems too-notch and it could play other roles in your musical life.
Oh, well, that IS interesting. Very Very interesting
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