Anyone else do delay before gain?

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Anyone else do delay before gain?

Post by stevejamsecono » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:19 pm

I got inspired to start messing with my established pedal order after reading a few of the interviews in the Pedal Crush book. I've always waffled between having my modulations before and after my gains, but it had honestly never occurred to me to put any of my delay pedals before my gain stages.

WOW. To say the least that's quite the difference. Suddenly the delay sounds massive. Granted, a bit harder to dial in but it seems to make rhythmic stuff pop a bit better and it sounds more like some of my favorites (Andy Summers, VH) who ran echoplexes in front of cranked amps. When the day comes to play with other people again I'm definitely going to try it in practice.

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Re: Anyone else do delay before gain?

Post by soggy mittens » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:40 pm

Yeah I got into it ages ago from listening to Sparta and being like "how do they get that delay tone, it is so good", then sussed it out now I use it for my high gain slap back doubling kinda sound for leads and also for modulated eighth note delay for at least one song at the moment. I use post gain delay more for rhythm based stuff tho.
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Re: Anyone else do delay before gain?

Post by seenoevil II » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:42 pm

My favorite is a single ping at like a doted quarter with just completely degenerate levels of gain. Even better with a bit crusher or octave fuzz, but i can only do that in DAW rn. It feels like there's a monkey strapped to your back and he's mocking you by copying all of your actions.
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Post by Gavanti » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:38 pm

Yep. I have my RE20 sandwiched between fuzzes and other drives. It sounds pretty great there.

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Re: Anyone else do delay before gain?

Post by Pacafeliz » Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:49 pm

Yessir! I use a short kind room delay before od/dist pedals and a long one at the end. Sounds so good!!!
i love delay SO much ...that i procrastinate all the time.

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Re: Anyone else do delay before gain?

Post by fuzzjunkie » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:58 am

If have an El Capistan before a fuzzy overdrive and a Timefactor after. I like that Echoplex into a cranked amp sound, as mentioned by the OP.

The El Capistan doesn’t have the Echoplex preamp that really drives that sound, so the overdrive fills that in and boosts the signal going to the amp. It’s a dual overdrive and has a second gain stage if I want to make things fuzzy, but usually the boost is enough.

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Re: Anyone else do delay before gain?

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:18 pm

I was always on the fence about having delay and reverb before gain because even though I love the sound, I have a big enough board and didn't want to make it bigger. I ended up getting an EQD Afterneath for exactly that purpose, which is sweet because it can be used as either delay or reverb.

My post-gain pedals don't change much (the pedals OR the order), but pre-gain I've been messing with quite a bit. I've got my phaser pre-gain because it sounds almost wah-like with gain on, and I've got my Afterneath before that so I can get some deep, droning phaser stuff when I want to.
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