Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
- sal paradise
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Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
Which would you get more mileage from?
I know this is totally subjective. My new board plan is to use a simple reverb & a straight up delay that does good analogue and digital sounds. (Most likely to use analogue these days.) I want to add one more pedal that gives me some sweet, spacey modulation with a single click for the odd dropout/middle 8 type thing.
Currently leaning towards a 2nd reverb with mod/shimmer. At the same time, the DMM nano is also calling to me. Interested to see what others prefer.
I know this is totally subjective. My new board plan is to use a simple reverb & a straight up delay that does good analogue and digital sounds. (Most likely to use analogue these days.) I want to add one more pedal that gives me some sweet, spacey modulation with a single click for the odd dropout/middle 8 type thing.
Currently leaning towards a 2nd reverb with mod/shimmer. At the same time, the DMM nano is also calling to me. Interested to see what others prefer.
I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion?
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
I use both. Just a bit on each, especially synths. All my delay pedals have modulation capabilities.
For reverb, I have the DBA Rooms, the Eventide Space and the Boss RV-6.
When using a guitar amp, I prefer the RV-6 and often use the modulated setting. I use the other reverbs for keyboards as I don't really like them with a guitar and amp.
For reverb, I have the DBA Rooms, the Eventide Space and the Boss RV-6.
When using a guitar amp, I prefer the RV-6 and often use the modulated setting. I use the other reverbs for keyboards as I don't really like them with a guitar and amp.
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
Both for me as well. Not always at the same time, but both can sound amazing, even together. My delay with modulation is a Caroline Kilobyte and it is especially lovely.
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
Modulated delay, especially if you already have a basic reverb to run into.
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
This is an interesting thing I hadn’t considered. Although I usually play with a fair amount of gain so reverb isn’t on for every song/not needed in empty venuesfuzzjunkie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:49 amModulated delay, especially if you already have a basic reverb to run into.
Those Caroline pedals sure are nice.Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:29 amBoth for me as well. Not always at the same time, but both can sound amazing, even together. My delay with modulation is a Caroline Kilobyte and it is especially lovely.
I mean, I think I know the correct answer is to get both. Just in case, like. Right?
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
From the both camp (and maybe too digital and too dear): Eventide H9 max pedals are getting (relatively) cheap with people upgrading to the H90. There may be another bug sell off when the H90’s are available again.
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Otherwise: a DMM May not do everything but everything it does is right
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
I personally don't care much for modulated reverb. I have had great results feeding a modulated delay with a short decay and just one or two repeats into a reverb. It really makes it stand out when I want it, and then it falls away when I click it off.
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
You won't get any argument from me. Whether I use something all the time or not, I like having options That's why I've got like 9 gain pedalssal paradise wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:34 amThose Caroline pedals sure are nice.Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:29 amBoth for me as well. Not always at the same time, but both can sound amazing, even together. My delay with modulation is a Caroline Kilobyte and it is especially lovely.
I mean, I think I know the correct answer is to get both. Just in case, like. Right?
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
Yes, little or no reverb is needed in a half empty venue with brick walls unless it’s a special effect!sal paradise wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:34 amThis is an interesting thing I hadn’t considered. Although I usually play with a fair amount of gain so reverb isn’t on for every song/not needed in empty venuesfuzzjunkie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:49 amModulated delay, especially if you already have a basic reverb to run into.
Those Caroline pedals sure are nice.Shadoweclipse13 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:29 amBoth for me as well. Not always at the same time, but both can sound amazing, even together. My delay with modulation is a Caroline Kilobyte and it is especially lovely.
I mean, I think I know the correct answer is to get both. Just in case, like. Right?
Also, since you have another delay pedal: a short single or double repeat echo into a longer modulated delay is quite nice. As is the reverse. Or set one to a straight division and the other to a dotted division. A quarter note into dotted eighth with modulation is especially nice.
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
Yeah, always loved stacking delays.
Well, budget delay 1 turned up today & it does a really nice analogue & tape, with a super long delay time (Mooer reecho).
I’ve also got a weird Joyo dual pedal delay that has a meh sounding modulation, so that should give me an idea of how that works to me, & whether what the DMM does will give me warmth & joy. Beyond just sounding lush, that is.
About to go & collect a reverb, which hopefully does “reverb” with one knob, and then shimmer with a second knob (0 is no shimmer). Then I’ll start to think about it.
I can’t lie, I have been wondering if the Catalinbread Soft Focus could be my little magic middle 8 toy.
Well, budget delay 1 turned up today & it does a really nice analogue & tape, with a super long delay time (Mooer reecho).
I’ve also got a weird Joyo dual pedal delay that has a meh sounding modulation, so that should give me an idea of how that works to me, & whether what the DMM does will give me warmth & joy. Beyond just sounding lush, that is.
About to go & collect a reverb, which hopefully does “reverb” with one knob, and then shimmer with a second knob (0 is no shimmer). Then I’ll start to think about it.
I can’t lie, I have been wondering if the Catalinbread Soft Focus could be my little magic middle 8 toy.
I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion?
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Re: Modulated reverb or modulated delay?
I use both, but if had to chose one, I'd chose the delay for milage.
Turn it on with a reverb and the reverb becomes modulated essentially. (i do this anyway, so that both reverb and delay are set moderately modulated, but both engaged, or another delay engaged makes it a 'multistage chorus' rather than just higher depth. sounds different.)
Use it as chorus, flange, vibrato, longer 'wow' etc. which isn't possible with reverb. Its more of a toolkit for all these modulation effects isn't it. When is a chorus a flanger, vibrato or delay? its just about timing, feedback and maybe the amount of parallel stages.
For reverb i usually prefer a subtle 'swirl' to it. The colour and richness changes but essentially i am not hearing the ups and downs of pitch so much.
Turn it on with a reverb and the reverb becomes modulated essentially. (i do this anyway, so that both reverb and delay are set moderately modulated, but both engaged, or another delay engaged makes it a 'multistage chorus' rather than just higher depth. sounds different.)
Use it as chorus, flange, vibrato, longer 'wow' etc. which isn't possible with reverb. Its more of a toolkit for all these modulation effects isn't it. When is a chorus a flanger, vibrato or delay? its just about timing, feedback and maybe the amount of parallel stages.
For reverb i usually prefer a subtle 'swirl' to it. The colour and richness changes but essentially i am not hearing the ups and downs of pitch so much.