original 65 jag?

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original 65 jag?

Post by tinybobseger » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:22 pm

Is this original? https://greenville.craigslist.org/msg/d ... 81792.html

I really hope it is. Beautiful guitar. The only thing that give me pause is that the pickguard reminds me of one I saw on a 90's japanese reissue. Something about the color. I'm going to see it in person tomorrow, but I'm a neophyte and wanted to know if anyone on here could spot something that gave it away.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by Gavanti » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:05 pm

I can't tell from the photos, but I'd be pretty careful. Based on the predilection for 80's metal guitars and the location, I'd bet it's the same seller from this thread.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by timtam » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:07 pm

Yep that's def the same swimming pool from our newest Hall of Shame inductee !

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by tinybobseger » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:08 am

I can't get to the linked thread. Could someone with access paraphrase?

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by Gavanti » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:28 am

tinybobseger wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:08 am
I can't get to the linked thread. Could someone with access paraphrase?
The seller parted out a JM on Reverb, purportedly all-original except a refin. A few OSG members identified the body as a modern, CNC-cut one. When one of the OSG members sent a message about it, the seller issued a bunch of blustery denials. The seller then pulled the listing but then listed the body on eBay with a description written in a way that suggests that the body is vintage without ever stating that directly. The eBay ad also eliminates the pictures that originally made it identifiable as a copy. Shady. Several members have reported it to eBay. The seller has a fair amount of good feedback, and the Jag you're interested in could be all original, but I'd ask to look at all the parts, wiring, and routing, take photos and have them vetted here if you don't feel comfortable doing that yourself. If the seller balks, just walk away.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by mbene085 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:45 am

tinybobseger wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:08 am
I can't get to the linked thread. Could someone with access paraphrase?
Here is a thread in the Hall of Shame about them as well.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by tinybobseger » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:06 am

Thanks guys. I am going to meet up with him today, but won't be buying without some serious vetting. Love this community.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by tinybobseger » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:09 am

Since I can't get to the private boards, would someone mind PMing me his ebay handle so I can see the listings and feedback? Thanks.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by mbene085 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:24 am

tinybobseger wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:09 am
Since I can't get to the private boards, would someone mind PMing me his ebay handle so I can see the listings and feedback? Thanks.
His eBay and Reverb usernames are in the Hall of Shame post I linked. I don't think the HoS is private.

It's stomp-boxer to n EBay and Big Hair Nation on Reverb.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by andrewaward » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:53 am

If you are buying that Jag as 100% original you need to see pics of the body neck pocket and a pic with the pickguard removed and also pics of the pots. The pics on the ad don't say very much.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by tinybobseger » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:40 am

Met him today and checked out the Jag. It is completely legit. Beautiful guitar. Seems like a good price. Considering....

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by gringopig » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:18 am

Maybe he was burned on the LPB and was genuinely unaware?

The sunburst one looks very nice!

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by Gavanti » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:02 pm

gringopig wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:18 am
Maybe he was burned on the LPB and was genuinely unaware?

The sunburst one looks very nice!
I think that's entirely possible. It's the actions afterward that are troubling. Really glad to hear that the Jag looks good though OP! I hope something works out for you. I got a dream deal on an old Jag a few years ago, and it's been my favorite ever since.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by blackbox » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:40 pm

Just remember: it's a buyers market on vintage jags. There are so many nice and cheaply priced 65s out there. If you have any doubts, just move on. There will always be more.

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Re: original 65 jag?

Post by Francer » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:21 pm

tinybobseger wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:40 am
Met him today and checked out the Jag. It is completely legit. Beautiful guitar. Seems like a good price. Considering....
The guy Is a proven con man. He still has a fake body for sale as genuine vintage, and if it was an innocent mistake at first, it isn’t now, he has deliberately hidden the trem cavity from view by putting a trem unit on.

Seriously good luck with the purchase if you go ahead. If it was me I wouldn’t buy a bucket of water from him if my guitar was on fire

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