The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by garyptaszek » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:41 am

Rob wrote:
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Oh my god, have you got a picture of the headstock?? :wacko:
Here you go. It's really not that bad -- or maybe I'm just used to seeing it this way. But most people don't even notice until I point it out and then they're like "OH MY GOD WUUUUT!?"

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damn, I think I actually prefer that? :-[
Reminds me of an Ibanez Blazer headstock.

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by SignoftheDragon » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 am

CCOffset wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:52 am
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Don't tell me... Dare I hope?

STARCASTER XII???!!!

:? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by DaddyDom » Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:47 pm

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I have to say, there is way more than enough skill on OSG to remake that headstock like you never knew it was gone!

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by JSett » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:46 pm

garyptaszek wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:41 am
Reminds me of an Ibanez Blazer headstock.
This is fact.
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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by simonhpieman » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:54 am

And of course, someone's modded one which I'm about to post in that "other" thread...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... 3705093314

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by Rob » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:57 am

simonhpieman wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:54 am
And of course, someone's modded one which I'm about to post in that "other" thread...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... 3705093314
I legit shed a tear for that one. My mutilated Starcaster looks positively radiant by comparison.

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by 46346 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:51 pm

gishuk wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:10 am

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The neck really is incredible, a bit bigger than my Jazzmasters but very comfortable. I'm not sure if it was refretted, but the frets are getting on towards jumbo sized, which suits me perfectly. In fact after playing this guitar for a bit I had my 61 JM refretted with similar size jumbos.

would you say they are 'vintage jumbo' frets? a bit wider, but not especially tall?
most of the close up fotos of original Starcaster frets that i've seen seem to indicate that to my eye.
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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by 46346 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:57 pm

SignoftheDragon wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 am
CCOffset wrote:
Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:52 am
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Don't tell me... Dare I hope?

STARCASTER XII???!!!

:? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
OK - Sure! but what would *that* headstock look like??
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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by 46346 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:33 pm

i guess by 1977 Fender wondered, "so, what's it gonna take to get folks excited about the Starcaster"
maybe something like this?

ImageStarcaster magazine ad by echoparkguitar, on Flickr
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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by JSett » Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:14 pm

46346 wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:33 pm
i guess by 1977 Fender wondered, "so, what's it gonna take to get folks excited about the Starcaster"
maybe something like this?
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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by SignoftheDragon » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am

46346 wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:57 pm
SignoftheDragon wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 am
Don't tell me... Dare I hope?

STARCASTER XII???!!!

:? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
OK - Sure! but what would *that* headstock look like??
Easy: just a Starcaster-y version of the Deimel layout:

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(Yes, I've thought about this... a LOT!)

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by Flurko » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:03 am

Sidenote, their use in this headstock is a proof of the greatness of split post tuners, even if they needed through -holes ones for the paired strings, they still kept the traditional ones for the rest, because Deimel know what's good.

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by simonhpieman » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:32 am

46346 wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:51 pm
gishuk wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:10 am

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The neck really is incredible, a bit bigger than my Jazzmasters but very comfortable. I'm not sure if it was refretted, but the frets are getting on towards jumbo sized, which suits me perfectly. In fact after playing this guitar for a bit I had my 61 JM refretted with similar size jumbos.

would you say they are 'vintage jumbo' frets? a bit wider, but not especially tall?
most of the close up fotos of original Starcaster frets that i've seen seem to indicate that to my eye.
All the Starcasters I've played with original frets had decent size ones. I'd say Gibson-esque, in fact, funnily enough!

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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by 46346 » Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:20 pm

SignoftheDragon wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am
46346 wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:57 pm
SignoftheDragon wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 am
Don't tell me... Dare I hope?

STARCASTER XII???!!!

:? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
OK - Sure! but what would *that* headstock look like??
Easy: just a Starcaster-y version of the Deimel layout:

Image

(Yes, I've thought about this... a LOT!)


you demonstrate good sense here.
perhaps you should be in charge of the Starcaster XII development.

i was trying to picture a Starcaster swoop/Electric XII hockey stick hybrid :unsure: ??
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Re: The Big (?) Vintage Starcaster Thread

Post by 46346 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:27 am

johnnysomersett wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:14 pm
46346 wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:33 pm
i guess by 1977 Fender wondered, "so, what's it gonna take to get folks excited about the Starcaster"
maybe something like this?
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as much as i want to run away, it makes a lot more sense than such treatment to a Star.

yes, i'm trying to coin the abbreviation 'Star' as guitar shorthand, like 'Strat', 'Tele', etc... 8)
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