MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?
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What a great track and video. I had never seen the video before!
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Seriously great.
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.
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@telliot, Larry just threw down the gauntlet. Let's hear your Earth, Wind and Fire cover album.
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I’m using the Vocoder as more of a textural treatment in the choruses, more than anything. I wanted to try something that made me uncomfortable, which worked, but I ended up liking it more than I thought I would. I mean, it’s no EW&F, but that’s a pinnacle I’ll never reach.
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Cheers!
This is my latest mix. No idea if it’s any good — I’ve lost all objectivity at this point.
Anyway, hope you enjoy it.
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I think it sounds great! Good song, great mix, Todd. Good show!
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Thanks, Larry!
The cool thing about fretless is you can hit a note...and then renegotiate.
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Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?
That sounds great!
Re: the original post: it’s not you, it actually is pretty difficult to get a vocoder sound to sit in a mix like that, particularly with most plug-in vocoders, and particularly with a pre-recorded vocal track - it’s much easier to “perform” the vocal input while hearing its effect on the synth input in real time, which means a hardware vocoder or recording through the plugin “live” (which can be tricky.)
Tips: “speaking” the vocal input part rather than singing it, and don’t be afraid to get weird with enunciation and diction - you’re going for the formant / EQ / spectrum of the sound, the pitch is nearly irrelevant. The sound used for the “synth” part is also very important - having something full-range, bright, and unfiltered (like a sawtooth synth sound or string machine sound) usually works well.
And don’t forget to play with sources that aren’t vocal / synth! Using a drum part to “vocode” a synth, guitar, white noise, or other part can also be cool.
Re: the original post: it’s not you, it actually is pretty difficult to get a vocoder sound to sit in a mix like that, particularly with most plug-in vocoders, and particularly with a pre-recorded vocal track - it’s much easier to “perform” the vocal input while hearing its effect on the synth input in real time, which means a hardware vocoder or recording through the plugin “live” (which can be tricky.)
Tips: “speaking” the vocal input part rather than singing it, and don’t be afraid to get weird with enunciation and diction - you’re going for the formant / EQ / spectrum of the sound, the pitch is nearly irrelevant. The sound used for the “synth” part is also very important - having something full-range, bright, and unfiltered (like a sawtooth synth sound or string machine sound) usually works well.
And don’t forget to play with sources that aren’t vocal / synth! Using a drum part to “vocode” a synth, guitar, white noise, or other part can also be cool.
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