"Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Discussion of vintage Jazzmasters, Jaguars, Bass VIs, Electric XIIs and any other offset-waist instruments.
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by will » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:13 am

blackbox wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:55 am
I almost bought this one as a restoration project, but that neck pocket gap is just nasty. Too many red flags.
For me, it was the crack on the edge of the body near the rhythm controls - and no pictures of what's under the pickguard. Could be some super-scary routing under there!

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Post by blackbox » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:21 am

Yeah, for sure.

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:32 am

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A 63' VI

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Post by rbrcbr » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:39 am

Unicorn Warrior wrote:
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A 63' VI
Swear to you I just let out an audible "ugh. Jesus Christ."

That's not terrible, but still just bad enough that it hurts to look at. That poor formerly LPB body...

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Post by jeff m. » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:37 am

Funny..after Will's "un-Voxing a Jazzmaster" thread, I now look at guitars like the Bass VI above & think "Pffft..no big deal :) !

Interesting use of the mute, too..not only backwards, but looks like they trimmed the 'lip' off it..a real shame, vintage VI mutes are rare as
hen's teeth.

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Post by higgsblossom » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:55 am

The fact that it’s pictured on a workbench gives me hope that this is the start of a restoration project?
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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by will » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:59 am

higgsblossom wrote:
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The fact that it’s pictured on a workbench gives me hope that this is the start of a restoration project?
...unless this is the workbench of ...THE BUTCHER!

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Post by PorkyPrimeCut » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:17 pm

rbrcbr wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:39 am
Unicorn Warrior wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:32 am
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A 63' VI
...That's not terrible, but still just bad enough that it hurts to look at. That poor formerly LPB body...
I'll have to disagree with you on that one. It's a horrible mess!! Admittedly, there's not a lot that's been altered but what has been altered looks fucking ridiculous!
Oh, OK, leave the headstock intact so people know it's a Fender. Well played! I'm sure that mute works much better too, now that it's behind the strings! And that stupid bit of extra wood?! What's that all about? I'm guessing it's supposed to make your picking arm more comfy but it looks like it's gonna make it worse. It's like the opposite of a contour.
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Post by Squirrel » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:06 pm

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I'm sure that mute works much better too, now that it's behind the strings!
That actually used to be a somewhat common mod for Jags, it's supposed to act like a rudimentary buzzstop but it doesn't really work that well. But yeah I agree, that VI looks fucking awful.

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Post by dc » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:57 pm

Squirrel wrote:
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But yeah I agree, that VI looks fucking awful.
they just need to cut off the top of the headstock so it "fits in Baldwin case" like that JM a few pages back, and the transformation would be complete - :fp:
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Post by Hyphen Nation » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:48 pm

Unicorn Warrior wrote:
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This one cuts deep. Had a physiological reaction to this picture akin to seeing something harmful happen to someone.

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:15 pm

I think the silver lining is that it isn't too far gone for someone who knows what there doing to fill in the rest of the body and fix it

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:22 pm

will wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:59 am
higgsblossom wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:55 am
The fact that it’s pictured on a workbench gives me hope that this is the start of a restoration project?
...unless this is the workbench of ...THE BUTCHER!
Haha. Na. This looks like work is from way back. Unfortunately, we see so many mutilated offsets because they were unpopular for so long. People just used them as experimental guitars because they weren't "cool" back in the 80s.

The guitar went to my local tech for a set-up I believe. Saw it on Facebook. I have hope for this one though. I really do believe it can be restored after watching guys on here piece much worse things back together.

All in all, the amount of wood missing is not that substantial. It would just take someone with the skill

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Post by 601210 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:31 pm

Unicorn Warrior wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:22 pm
will wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:59 am
higgsblossom wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:55 am
The fact that it’s pictured on a workbench gives me hope that this is the start of a restoration project?
...unless this is the workbench of ...THE BUTCHER!
Haha. Na. This looks like work is from way back. Unfortunately, we see so many mutilated offsets because they were unpopular for so long. People just used them as experimental guitars because they weren't "cool" back in the 80s.

The guitar went to my local tech for a set-up I believe. Saw it on Facebook. I have hope for this one though. I really do believe it can be restored after watching guys on here piece much worse things back together.

All in all, the amount of wood missing is not that substantial. It would just take someone with the skill
After that Vox deconversion thread I strongly doubt there's anything that can't be restored. But you kinda have to wonder at what point you've stopped restoring and are just basically "embedding" that vintage mojo in a new body.

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Re: "Why did you do it? Why did you do this thing to me?"

Post by higgsblossom » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:12 am

With will's work on the de-VOX-ing, I was actually not expecting the body to be approx. 80% original. I think that everything over 50% should be considered restoration ;)
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