Mustang on a Jaguar
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
Maybe buy a guitar you actually like instead of pouring money into one it appears you really don't?
Jaguars just don't sustain the way that other guitars do - it's why they have the character and tone they do.
Jaguars just don't sustain the way that other guitars do - it's why they have the character and tone they do.
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
I should just sell this Jaguar and get a guitar like my mustang but with a whammy bar.
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
Well, ironically enough, that shitty bridge is a big part of the jaguar sound LOL at least that's a big part of what I associate with the plinkyness of the jaguar, that and the short scale.
Like others said, the construction on the mustang you have is very different and it will definitely sustain more because of that.
BTW if you get a mustang with a whammy bar, that is bound to sound very different than yours, for the bridge alone, so watch out and try before you buy.
Jaguar > Jazzmaster :)
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
Thanks for the heads up, I'm learning a lot here. I don't have to have a whammy bar, I don't think they make mustangs with whammy bars...but I will always try before buy, that's my NY resolution.leokula wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:10 amWell, ironically enough, that shitty bridge is a big part of the jaguar sound LOL at least that's a big part of what I associate with the plinkyness of the jaguar, that and the short scale.
Like others said, the construction on the mustang you have is very different and it will definitely sustain more because of that.
BTW if you get a mustang with a whammy bar, that is bound to sound very different than yours, for the bridge alone, so watch out and try before you buy.
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
The Mustang was literally invented as a guitar with a whammy bar (or Dynamic Vibrato, to be specific):
The Duo-Sonic II was the Mustang but with a hardtail bridge:
In the 90's, Fender started making a 24.75" scale Mustang-shaped guitar with a stratocaster tremolo but called it the Cyclone to differentiate it from the Mustang:
It was only in the last 10 years or so that Fender started calling Mustang-shaped guitars with different bridges "Mustangs". It used to mean 1) Body shape 2) Dynamic Vibrato, and 3) 24" or 22.75" scale.
Now, in the 2010's, Fender is calling this (stratocaster) hardtail 24" guitar a Mustang:
Along with different hardtail bridges on the American Special Mustang:
and the Pawn Shop Mustang Special, with a modified body shape:
All this is to say that, as a newcomer, I'll forgive you for saying you "don't think they make a Mustang with a whammy bar"....when that had been the very definition of a Mustang for nearly 40 years.
But yes. They do make Mustangs with vibrato bridges. The only new options are Squier Vintage Modified at the low end, and American Performer Mustang at the higher end.
The American Performer Mustang has pretty much the identical neck to your American Special Mustang, FYI, so since you like that guitar, you'll likely enjoy this one, and it'll have the Vibrato you seek...
Your other option, if you love the American Special Mustang, is to buy another one and install a tremolo on it. A super easy mod is the Duesenberg Les Trem II. Here's a photo of one on a Jaguar Special, which had the same adjustomatic bridge (the Les Trem mounts to the existing Stop tailpiece posts):
The second option is to install a Bigsby, which can mount reversibly with a Vibramate plate. This particular Mustang doesn't have a vibramate installed, but it gives you an idea of what a Bigsby looks like on the smaller body:
Personally, I'd choose the cheaper and lighter Les Trem if you didn't like the Dynamic VIbrato on the American Performer.
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
nicely handled.
(Christopher, also)
I've been to one World's Fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing i ever heard come out a pair of headphones.
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
I think so. No music store had a JM Jag to play before buyin. I wanted a 24 inch scale with a thicker neck, I have old Hobbit hands, I heard the 7.25 radius makes chording easier and vintage frets are no biggie and it had a whammy bar, I've ordered from Sweetwater before so I bought it, I should have played it more when I first got it so I could return.....but I do have another Question...do you think a Mastey bridge would correct that " plinkey" tone?
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
Does the Masterly bridge people make a whammy bar for a mustang? Would I have to drill into the body to install it?mbene085 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:42 amThe Mustang was literally invented as a guitar with a whammy bar (or Dynamic Vibrato, to be specific):
The Duo-Sonic II was the Mustang but with a hardtail bridge:
In the 90's, Fender started making a 24.75" scale Mustang-shaped guitar with a stratocaster tremolo but called it the Cyclone to differentiate it from the Mustang:
It was only in the last 10 years or so that Fender started calling Mustang-shaped guitars with different bridges "Mustangs". It used to mean 1) Body shape 2) Dynamic Vibrato, and 3) 24" or 22.75" scale.
Now, in the 2010's, Fender is calling this (stratocaster) hardtail 24" guitar a Mustang:
Along with different hardtail bridges on the American Special Mustang:
and the Pawn Shop Mustang Special, with a modified body shape:
All this is to say that, as a newcomer, I'll forgive you for saying you "don't think they make a Mustang with a whammy bar"....when that had been the very definition of a Mustang for nearly 40 years.
But yes. They do make Mustangs with vibrato bridges. The only new options are Squier Vintage Modified at the low end, and American Performer Mustang at the higher end.
The American Performer Mustang has pretty much the identical neck to your American Special Mustang, FYI, so since you like that guitar, you'll likely enjoy this one, and it'll have the Vibrato you seek...
Your other option, if you love the American Special Mustang, is to buy another one and install a tremolo on it. A super easy mod is the Duesenberg Les Trem II. Here's a photo of one on a Jaguar Special, which had the same adjustomatic bridge (the Les Trem mounts to the existing Stop tailpiece posts):
The second option is to install a Bigsby, which can mount reversibly with a Vibramate plate. This particular Mustang doesn't have a vibramate installed, but it gives you an idea of what a Bigsby looks like on the smaller body:
Personally, I'd choose the cheaper and lighter Les Trem if you didn't like the Dynamic VIbrato on the American Performer.
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
Ok, got to order from Germany
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
And thank you mbene for that detailed information of the Mustang and its siblings... I knew about both of them but not what were the distinctive differences... so a normal Mustang is either a 24" or a 22.75" neck? So a 3/4rd neck is that it?
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
OP,
What are you going to with all this extra sustain?
What are you going to with all this extra sustain?
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
Oh man! That american performer mustang really looks good! I could not find to many reviews, I wonder what it sounds like with that type of bridge? Too bad it's s modern C, their a bit thin for me, perhaps I'll try one again, maybe sell Jag and buy mustang and not tell wife.Hans kung wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:05 pmDoes the Masterly bridge people make a whammy bar for a mustang? Would I have to drill into the body to install it?mbene085 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:42 amThe Mustang was literally invented as a guitar with a whammy bar (or Dynamic Vibrato, to be specific):
The Duo-Sonic II was the Mustang but with a hardtail bridge:
In the 90's, Fender started making a 24.75" scale Mustang-shaped guitar with a stratocaster tremolo but called it the Cyclone to differentiate it from the Mustang:
It was only in the last 10 years or so that Fender started calling Mustang-shaped guitars with different bridges "Mustangs". It used to mean 1) Body shape 2) Dynamic Vibrato, and 3) 24" or 22.75" scale.
Now, in the 2010's, Fender is calling this (stratocaster) hardtail 24" guitar a Mustang:
Along with different hardtail bridges on the American Special Mustang:
and the Pawn Shop Mustang Special, with a modified body shape:
All this is to say that, as a newcomer, I'll forgive you for saying you "don't think they make a Mustang with a whammy bar"....when that had been the very definition of a Mustang for nearly 40 years.
But yes. They do make Mustangs with vibrato bridges. The only new options are Squier Vintage Modified at the low end, and American Performer Mustang at the higher end.
The American Performer Mustang has pretty much the identical neck to your American Special Mustang, FYI, so since you like that guitar, you'll likely enjoy this one, and it'll have the Vibrato you seek...
Your other option, if you love the American Special Mustang, is to buy another one and install a tremolo on it. A super easy mod is the Duesenberg Les Trem II. Here's a photo of one on a Jaguar Special, which had the same adjustomatic bridge (the Les Trem mounts to the existing Stop tailpiece posts):
The second option is to install a Bigsby, which can mount reversibly with a Vibramate plate. This particular Mustang doesn't have a vibramate installed, but it gives you an idea of what a Bigsby looks like on the smaller body:
Personally, I'd choose the cheaper and lighter Les Trem if you didn't like the Dynamic VIbrato on the American Performer.
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Re: Mustang on a Jaguar
Hans,
That is a mildly redesigned mustang bridge. It'll sound like any other vintage style mustang, basically.
As for the specific pickups in the Performer Mustang,
here is a good demo of the clean to lightly overdriven tones.
As for the neck profile, I have not tried one, but one OSG a member posted saying that it felt a lot to them like the American Special Mustang neck, which you already own.
That is a mildly redesigned mustang bridge. It'll sound like any other vintage style mustang, basically.
As for the specific pickups in the Performer Mustang,
here is a good demo of the clean to lightly overdriven tones.
As for the neck profile, I have not tried one, but one OSG a member posted saying that it felt a lot to them like the American Special Mustang neck, which you already own.
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