Guitars you would like to kill forever.

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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by sirspens » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:06 pm

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I have bigger issue with musicians who never bother to learn the technique of tuning on the fly, always appreciate those who can do so without missing a beat or leaving an obvious a hole in the song.

Kill the robots, musicians will be better off without them.
See, I just hear, "Society was better before we had clean drinking water. Walking to the river 4 times a day and sometimes getting dysentery is what makes life worth living." Complaining about progress is weird.

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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by oid » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:38 am

sirspens wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:06 pm
See, I just hear, "Society was better before we had clean drinking water. Walking to the river 4 times a day and sometimes getting dysentery is what makes life worth living." Complaining about progress is weird.
You seem to have made a judgment of my values with little to no information and taken that to the absolute illogical extreme. You also seem to have failed to parse my prose. Oh well, life has long since taken away any ability I had to take offense anyways.

New does not equate progress and not all progress is good, many of the mistakes of our past were viewed as progress in their time, progress is not a single path which you are either on or regressing, there are many views of what it is and none of them are correct, but we can learn from them all. If we cease to hear the complaints and explore the alternatives we cease to progress.
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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:09 am

triviani wrote:
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A $20.000 extravaganza anyone?...


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Color and guard are weird, but I kinda like the shape...
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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by oid » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:33 am

Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:09 am
triviani wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:59 pm
A $20.000 extravaganza anyone?...


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BURN BURN IN HELL!!!
Color and guard are weird, but I kinda like the shape...
32 frets, with the last few being non chromatic. Never noticed that before. Interesting.
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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:37 am

oid wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:33 am
32 frets, with the last few being non chromatic. Never noticed that before. Interesting.
I didn't either. I wonder what the difference would make note-wise...
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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by oid » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:55 am

Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:37 am
I didn't either. I wonder what the difference would make note-wise...
Looks like the 32 is at the octave, so he has almost all of the notes up to E7, my eyes are to tired at the moment to figure out which ones he has. That is quite the range. Going to have to find a recording of him playing up there, curious what it sounds like, and what Uli sounds like, only thing I can remember of him is 'Winds of Change' and I have not heard that since it was the new hit single.
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Post by thatfenderguy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:30 am

Jag-Stang

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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by Stephen_42 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:51 am

thatfenderguy wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:30 am
Jag-Stang
Your entirely subjective personal opinion is wrong :p

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Post by BoringPostcards » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:53 am

Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:09 am
triviani wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:59 pm
A $20.000 extravaganza anyone?...


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BURN BURN IN HELL!!!
Color and guard are weird, but I kinda like the shape...
It's basically shaped like a sperm or tadpole.
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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:48 pm

Frogs are cool. The only thing I can't stand about it is the flame top coupled with the chrome guard...
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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by marqueemoon » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:48 pm

Tuning a guitar is a series of musical decisions. Letting a robot do it is a copout.

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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by Harmoncj » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:36 am

oid wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:33 am
32 frets, with the last few being non chromatic. Never noticed that before. Interesting.
I was just looking at that, I guess the frets get so tight that its easier this way

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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by Stephen_42 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:12 am

marqueemoon wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:48 pm
Tuning a guitar is a series of musical decisions. Letting a robot do it is a copout.
No it isn't... Other than deciding what you want your guitar tuned to, the goal of tuning is to have each string hit that note as accurately as possible. If a computer can do that better than a human, it's better to have a computer do it.

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Post by Don_Karnage » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:27 am

Stephen_42 wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:12 am

No it isn't... Other than deciding what you want your guitar tuned to, the goal of tuning is to have each string hit that note as accurately as possible. If a computer can do that better than a human, it's better to have a computer do it.
Tuning any fretted instrument (or any insteument where the notes are ”fixed”, but fretted instruments like guitars especially) is going to be a compromise.
Personally I prefer to be in control of that compromise myself.

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Re: Guitars you would like to kill forever.

Post by sirspens » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:03 pm

marqueemoon wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:48 pm
Tuning a guitar is a series of musical decisions. Letting a robot do it is a copout.
You can actually program the Gibson robot tuner to do whatever you want. And if you need to change something quickly in a song, there are still buttons there to override it.

It is a tool. Just like tuners are tools, and guitars are tools. We use them to accomplish what we desire. What annoys me is the outlandish backlash against Gibson that eliminated a tool that could have been useful to many people.

I wonder if at one point people complained about geared tuners having greater than 1:1 ratio. Or loop stations. "A real musician gets more guitarist, or plays multiple guitar parts at once." Would those tools have been killed, too, in our modern world?

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